Maybe it's a plot to get speaking time at the next United Nations General
Assembly, they will let just about anyone speak about just about anything.

Michael Oliver
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 12:29 PM
To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org
Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] OT: Google and Yahoo

i wish we could get an opinion out of this group

On Sep 21, 2006, at 11:16 AM, josh zeidner wrote:

>
>
>  Yes, very entertaining.
>
>  Although the actual laws and guidelines that govern
> these issues remain to be seen( in this thread  ), I
> do find that fostering an environment of informal
> discussion etc. provides an excellent cover for
> industry jackasses to effect the community in very
> negative ways.
>
>  Back to the original question: Does Sun manage these
> problems? JCP? or the local community members?
>
>  thanks,  jmz
>
> --- Michael Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Attention Attention, anyone reading this message
>> without the intent of
>> evaluating the javaness of it please disregard.
>>
>> Michael Oliver
>> CTO
>> Alarius Systems LLC
>> 6800 E. Lake Mead Blvd, #1096
>> Las Vegas, NV 89156
>> Phone:(702)866-9034
>> Cell:(518)378-6154
>> Fax:(702)974-0341
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Art Gramlich
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 11:49 AM
>> To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org
>> Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] OT: Google and Yahoo
>>
>> Sorry Mr. Zeidner, informal developer-related
>> commentary is indeed
>> inappropriate content for a USERS GROUP.
>> In fact, I have seen on this list that at certain
>> JUG meetings,
>> discussion on non-Java technologies have been
>> discussed.
>> Everyone needs to get back to working on corporate
>> project #101
>> immediately. And make sure it's written in Java(tm).
>>
>>
>> I'll go back to lurking again.
>>
>> Art
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 21, 2006, at 10:36 AM, josh zeidner wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   I guess its some kind of coincidence that I am
>>> noticing a high degree of informal commentary on
>> UG
>>> lists lately.  You do realize that this kind of
>> thing
>>> reflects badly on customer and employer appeal?
>>>
>>>   For instance, I could say some kind of offhand
>>> comment like "they'll give a greencard to just
>> about
>>> any slob who scraped up enough money to bribe the
>>> DOL!".  Obviously, some may be deeply offended by
>> such
>>> a statement.
>>>
>>>   Although it is certainly the prerogative of a
>> group
>>> to govern themselves the way they see fit, in the
>> case
>>> of a JUG, there is the issue of the exploitation
>> of
>>> the legitimacy that the JUG term provides.  I'm
>>> wondering if there are any regulations that deal
>> with
>>> this issue in the JCP or whether the JUG term is
>> an
>>> entirely public-domain all-purpose term that can
>> be
>>> utilized by any party.  I would assume that if
>> there
>>> are no such regulations then either 1) JUGs will
>>> likely degrade in relevance( a process already in
>>> effect ), 2) such regulations will be imposed in
>> the
>>> future.  The problems of such exploitation extend
>> to
>>> all members of a local area.
>>>
>>>   Thanks,
>>>
>>>     Josh Zeidner
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Nick Lesiecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> To Tim and Jon:
>>>>
>>>> I nearly fell out of my freaking chair at "White
>> and
>>>> Nerdy".
>>>>
>>>> To the rest of you:
>>>> If you haven't seen it, it's a must see.
>>>>
>>>> Back to Tim:
>>>>
>>>> Even Google hasn't solved the problem of how to
>>>> migrate all of your
>>>> friends and relatives from your old address.
>>>> Besides, this way I can
>>>> spy on their new UI!
>>>>
>>>> FWIW: I couldn't survive without GMail for my
>> work
>>>> account. Only
>>>> Gmail can handle the volume of internal mail I
>> get.
>>>>
>>>> Back to the group:
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and anyone who's in the area for Hackday's
>>>> welcome to come and
>>>> visit the 'plex. Dunno what Yahoo has planned for
>>>> HackDay, but I
>>>> guarantee our cafe food is better on the average
>>>> Tuesday than it is
>>>> at Yahoo's special event.
>>>>
>>>> That's right. I went there.
>>>>
>>>> Nick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 19, 2006, at 2:03 PM, Tim Colson
>> ((tcolson))
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Lol... am I the only one laughing that Nick sent
>>>> this from his
>>>>> yahoo.com
>>>>> email?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hojillion -- "number of hos you can fit in your
>>>> car" ... hmm, in my
>>>>> two-seater that'd only be one and she'd have to
>>>> sit on the wife's
>>>>> lap...which would most likely end badly. <grin>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's too bad GOOG doesn't seem to have a remote
>>>> worker option... or
>>>>>
>>>>> FYI... I'll be at the Yahoo Open Hack Day
>>>> (hackday.org) in the Bay
>>>>> Area
>>>>> next weekend. Anybody else going to be there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nick? Or are you too "white and nerdy"?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7939447080926152362&q=white
>>>>
>>>>> +and+
>>>>> nerdy
>>>>>
>>>>> -Timo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Nick Lesiecki
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 9:23 AM
>>>>>> To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] OT: Fwd:
>>>> Potentially
>>>>>> interesting Seattle Times story
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think this is an appropriate time to mention
>>>> that Google
>>>>>> has an office in Phoenix, and if you want to be
>>>> part of a
>>>>>> team that wins a
>>>>>> hojillion* dollar award, you should send me
>> your
>>>> resume. I've
>>>>>> already helped one of the Tucson JUG'ers find
>>>> employ at
>>>>>> Google, and I hope to shepherd a few more into
>>>> our "Island of
>>>>>> Snacks" in Tempe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Hojillion:
>>>>
>>>
>>
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hojillion
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. This is my one chance for famous name
>>>> dropping: I was in a
>>>>>> meeting w/ Guido Van Rossum yesterday. WOot!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.P.S. Despite the tone of this email, I am
>>>> serious. Send me your
>>>>>> resume.
>>>>>
>>
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