This is a very interesting discussion.  Personally, I've not
dealt with these issues much -- I only had one job where I
signed a non-compete clause and that company is long gone... 
Beyond the specific legal interpretations, I was wondering if
anyone had comments on how to handle a situation where you are
offered a job (contract or perm) with some clauses that you
don't like.  How do you go about negotiating the terms of the
contract?  Is it even negotiatable?  I've never been good about
negotiating anyway and with the current job market it seems like
the job seeker is in the weak position.

-Alex




---- On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Adam Kuehn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> Mitch Amiano wrote:
> 
> >Assignment Of Inventions:
> >Any and all inventions and/or improvements and/or
discoveries, 
> >whether patentable or not, which Consultant conceives and/or
makes 
> >in the course of performance of the work, or as a result of
the 
> >knowledge obtained by Consultant of any technical information

> >covered by the confidentiality provisions of clause 5, shall
be the 
> >sole and exclusive property of The Corporation and Consultant
shall 
> >promptly disclose and cause to be disclosed to The
Corporation, all 
> >such inventions, improvements and discoveries and, at the
election 
> >of The Corporation, cause the execution and assignment to The

> >Corporation of patent applications and letters patent
thereon
> 
> This is a pretty reasonable assignment clause.  The key phrase
is "in 
> the course of performance of the work."  In any legal action
to 
> enforce this clause, the Corporation (whoever they are) is
going to 
> have to prove that whatever invention you are claiming as
yours was 
> developed on their nickel.  All you have to do to avoid that
clause 
> is to keep a clear separation between your consultant work and
your 
> off-hours work.  Use separate computers and this shouldn't be
much of 
> an issue.  The other part regarding the use of information
protected 
> by the confidentiality agreement is just as hard for them to
prove, 
> and has the added complication that in the course of proving
that you 
> used confidential information, they will have to make that 
> confidential information a part of the public court record.
> 
> I wouldn't worry too much about this provision.
> 
> >Non Compete:
> >During the term of this agreement and for a period of two
years 
> >thereafter, Consultant shall have no business dealings
whatsoever, 
> >directly or indirectly, with respect to any product that is
or could 
> >be competitive with the products of The Corporation in
connection 
> >with which services are rendered hereunder by Consultant,
including 
> >any mentioned on the Project Statement of Work and any which
The 
> >Corporation subsequently notifies Consultant that utilize the
Work. 
> >The parties agree that this restriction is reasonable in
light of 
> >the payments to be made to Consultant hereunder.
> 
> This is a much bigger problem.  As others have pointed out, it
is 
> incredibly broad.  So broad as to make it very likely
unenforceable. 
> But I wouldn't sign any agreement on the grounds that you
think it 
> might be unenforceable.  The risk is just too high - if you
are wrong 
> about enforceability, you've just signed away virtually all
your 
> rights.  And while North Carolina is a "right to work" state,
that 
> phrase carries little meaning here.  North Carolina is
notoriously 
> company-friendly.
> 
> Three problem areas with the coverage of this clause:
> 
> 1. "no business dealings whatsoever, directly or indirectly" -
That 
> implies that you could not even purchase the competing
product, much 
> less actually work on it.  Clearly this is not a reasonable 
> restriction.  The nature of the business dealings need to be
more 
> clearly specified.  An acceptable alternative might be an
enumerated 
> list of the types of things prohibited, with or without a
"catch-all" 
> phrase.  Something like: "shall not, directly or indirectly, 
> contribute to the development, maintenance or production of a

> competing product, including (but not limited to) computer 
> programming, project or personnel management, consultation
with, or 
> contracting for the producer of such a product".
> 
> 2. "that is or could be competitive" - It isn't clear what is
and 
> isn't prohibited here.  Virtually anything "could be"
competitive, 
> especially if the other guy gets to decide what the term
means. 
> Either get them to leave out that phrase altogether, or get
them to 
> phrase it in terms of reasonableness: "that could reasonably
be 
> considered competitive".
> 
> 3. "and any which The Corporation subsequently notifies
Consultant 
> that utilize the Work" - Leaving aside the bad grammar which
makes 
> the meaning unclear, this clause leaves 100% of the control in
the 
> hands of the Corporation.  They can, with a word, place
anything in 
> their sphere of business off limits, just by telling you that
it is. 
> This entire clause should be stricken.  If that makes the
company 
> nervous, then add language which requires your consent to have

> something added.  For example, "and any which the Corporation
and 
> Consultant subsequently agree utilizes the Work.  Consultant
shall 
> not unreasonably withhold consent."
> 
> And one objection to the terms:  Although it is standard
business 
> practice in other fields to require two years in a non-compete

> clause, that is an eternity in software.  Six months to a year
is 
> better, and seems more in line with industry practice.
> 
> -Adam
> 
> The foregoing should not be construed as legal advice.  Legal
advice 
> should come only from a licensed practitioner familiar with
the 
> specific facts of your case and the laws of your
jurisdiction.
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