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On 14-04-17 12:03 PM, John Meinel wrote: > If you bootstrap, you are installing juju onto the remotel machine. > The reason we created a *patched* version is to give you > improvements (bug fixes, security fixes, etc). Sure, but if the user doesn't upgrade the client, they're missing out on a lot the improvements, anyhow. > I honestly think it is good policy to give updated versions when we > get a chance to do so. We aren't trying to cross Minor versions > during bootstrap, and we intend that patch levels should be > perfectly compatible. Yes, intentions are fine. But you can't prove that 1.18.1 and 1.18.6 are compatible, whereas I *can* prove that 1.18.1 and 1.18.1 are compatible, because I've run tests. And I don't think it's worth the effort to test 1.18.6 with all previous patchlevels of the client before we release it. I think that certainty of compatibility is worth more than the patchlevel improvements, because it is trivial to upgrade the client. That way you get both the patchlevel improvements and the certainty of compatibility. (And in environments where the juju client version is locked down, I expect that they would want to lock down the agent version as well.) > I do understand your point, and we can bring it up to wider debate > in Las Vegas. Do we really have to? Isn't Mark Ramm's recommendation that we do it my way enough? https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1247232/comments/6 Aaron -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTUAdPAAoJEK84cMOcf+9hbGMH/2dRtCI5z/1OpApt2wFBJjMw ZxhtqUW9ggeABDShkVWzLF3YKmOgCFDylyUFXEEBoZrdnv5NfTm23jnublPuA6oj 4f0uONhmfbD1TCZaXjrhQnbZunhzzE30XquJbaszz4tVt4mhXc5IfAWA7WbK+6Z7 YmjS6BWg4jjq3+dvpGtDNONYtggxAtgJQPdJBJzIY8O1h7OAjvuAC1Prrp1vDdYZ fOL6vIGjvz1FOUpNwqSpNVTHcwzb7ujhnUk8zaQtg8Csi7WKB2g8tmWHWZ1YE+Yr tCK7uONmKb3Xg7dgv973oVMxfRD6pgkuSUBo0GVVR1PsDfB4x8ENc2OKvBnQxEg= =c1H0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Juju-dev mailing list Juju-dev@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju-dev