I like the point: Solving P=NP reminds me of rust's 

* In theory. Rust is a work-in-progress and may do anything it likes up to 
> and including eating your laundry.


On Wednesday, 10 December 2014 19:15:05 UTC+1, Christian Peel wrote:
>
> One thing that I would very much appreciate is some kind of development 
> schedule.  For example
>   - Some kind of general roadmap
>   - a plan for when 0.4 and future releases will come
>   - Any plans to switch to a regular schedule?  (yearly, six
>     months, ...) 
>   - What features remain before a 1.0 release?
>   - When will following arrive?
>     > faster compilation
>     > pre-compiled modules
>     > Interactive debugging; line numbers for all errors
>     > Automatic reload on file modification.
>     > Solving P=NP
>
> I know that it's tough to make such a schedule, but anything that you can 
> provide would be helpful. Also, I'd be happy for something like a weekly 
> update; or a weekly blog post to help those who don't peruse this group in 
> depth each day.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Chris
>
> On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 5:41:35 AM UTC-8, Tamas Papp wrote:
>>
>> From the discussion, it looks like that homepages for programming 
>> languages (and realed projects) serve two purposes: 
>>
>> A. provide resources for the existing users (links to mailing lists, 
>> package directories, documentation, etc) 
>>
>> B. provide information for potential new users (showcasing features of 
>> the language, links to tutorials). 
>>
>> Given that space on the very front page is constrained (in the soft 
>> sense: no one wants pages that go on and on any more), I think that 
>> deciding on a balance between A and B would be a good way to focus the 
>> discussion. 
>>
>> Once we have decided that, we can shamelessly copy good practices. 
>>
>> For example, 
>>
>> 1. the R website emphasizes content for existing users (in a non-flashy 
>> way that I am OK with), with very little material for new users, 
>>
>> 2. about 1/3 of the middle bar on 
>> https://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Haskell is for new users 
>> (explanations/tutorials/etc), the 1/3 is for existing users (specs, 
>> libraries), and the final 1/3 is for both (forums, wiki, etc), 
>>
>> 3. http://new-www.haskell.org/ is mostly caters to potential new users 
>> ("see how great this language is"), 
>>
>> 4. the content of clojure.org is similarly for potential new users, 
>> while the sidebar has links for existing users. 
>>
>> Best, 
>>
>> Tamas 
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 10 2014, Hans W Borchers <[email protected]> wrote: 
>>
>> > Look at the R home page. R is one of the most popular languages, and 
>> esp. so 
>> > for statistical and computational applications. A programming language 
>> does 
>> > not need bloated home pages. 
>> > 
>> > I like the old Haskell home page much more than the new one. The new 
>> one 
>> > has 
>> > large, uninformative background pictures and not much information in a 
>> > small 
>> > and readable view. The HaskellWiki front page was much better in that. 
>> It 
>> > may 
>> > not even be decided which version will win. 
>> > 
>> > [Clojure])http://clojure.org/) has a nice, simple and informative home 
>> > page, 
>> > while [Scala](http://www.scala-lang.org/) has overdone it like the new 
>> > Haskell. For other approaches see the [Nim](http://nimrod-lang.org/) - 
>> > formerly 'Nimrod' - and [Nemerle](http://nemerle.org/) home pages. 
>> > 
>> > In the end I feel the condensed form of the Python home page will 
>> attract 
>> > more interest, for example with 'latest news' and 'upcoming events' on 
>> the 
>> > first page.This gives the impression of a lively and engaged community. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:23:37 AM UTC+1, Tim Holy wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> I like the Haskell one better than the Rust one. 
>> >> 
>> >> --Tim 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>>
>

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