Will be exciting to see how fast Julia 0.3 dies down when we start recommending 0.4 by default.
kl. 15:27:45 UTC+1 torsdag 18. desember 2014 skrev Stefan Karpinski følgende: > > Compatibility is tough and we've really just barely started to deal with > it, but I think so far it's going pretty well. Multiple dispatch is > uncannily good at deprecating things, and having a dynamic language with > nice metaprogramming makes it possible to do clever things like Compat.jl, > which makes it much easier to the language. Changes will slow down once we > hit 1.0, but they shouldn't stop. If we can make transitions between major > versions relatively painless, then we'll be able to continue to innovate > without getting stuck between versions the way Perl and Python have (for > quite opposite reasons). The Ruby transition from 1.8 to 2.0 is a good > model – they broke some things, but not so much that the language became > unfamiliar, and the pain of switching was more than fairly compensated for > by better performance and features that make the language more pleasant to > use. People should be excited about upgrading, not dread it. > > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Tamas Papp <tkp...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> On Thu, Dec 18 2014, Milan Bouchet-Valat <nali...@club.fr <javascript:>> >> wrote: >> >> >> the weirdest part is that there are some people who seem to >> >> enjoy *really* helping users, all the while being somewhat >> >> insulting. it is my (incomplete) understanding that internal >> >> strife in the core development team has become negative, too. >> >> it will be up to the julia core team to set the community >> >> standard and watch themselves and the community to keep it >> >> alive. >> > >> > Indeed, apart from the harsh tone on the R mailing lists (I couldn't >> > have described it better than Ivo did), the factor that I think drives >> > developers away from R is the idea that "it's documented, so it's not a >> > bug and doesn't need to change". For some time you try to contribute >> > improvements to the project, but at some point you get tired of trying >> > to convince core developers just to be able to help somewhere. Result: >> >> While I agree with the above description of the R community, we should >> take the context into account: R itself comes from S-plus, and there is >> quite a bit of legacy code that they would not want to break with >> incompatible changes. Hopefully Julia will never get ossified like this. >> >> Best, >> >> Tamas >> > >
