Please don't do that. Unnecessary comments directed at specific people are
exactly the kind of thing that start to change the character of a mailing
list and lead to burnout. Such comments are especially unwelcome when
directed against people who are not active on the list.

We should set a higher standard, especially in a thread about how nice the
mailing list is.

On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Giuseppe Paleologo <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> As a long-time R user, I second that. Brian Ripley is a core contributor
> to base R, does reply on R-help to many requests, but is very acerbic. In
> general, there is quite a big divide between R core contributors and R
> users. This is totally absent in Julia, with the founders of the language
> very involved with the early adopters.  It's a great asset to have for a
> new language. Just in recent times, I would say that the early adopters of
> Clojure were instrumental in the adoption of the language.
>
> -gappy
>
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:50:12 PM UTC-5, ivo welch wrote:
>>
>>
>> my note was partly a joke, partly a warning.  the R community started out
>> very nice, too.  many still are.  but some of the tone has shifted towards
>> the obnoxious.  the weirdest part is that there are some people who  seem
>> to enjoy *really* helping users, all the while being somewhat insulting.
>>  it is my (incomplete) understanding that internal strife in the core
>> development team has become negative, too.  it will be up to the julia core
>> team to set the community standard and watch themselves and the community
>> to keep it alive.
>>
>> this reminds me: for those of us who cannot contribute, is there a julia
>> foundation membership?  it would not be a bad idea to have us using users
>> get used to contributing, too.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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