Are there any open source languages with a "good" native IDE? 

I think IDEs are probably too painful to develop unless paid to do so..

> On 14 Sep 2015, at 10:31 pm, Tamas Papp <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Sep 14 2015, Joshua Ballanco <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> It was really only later that projects were started to build “true” Clojure 
>> IDEs, and still I don’t think any of these surpass (or even really approach) 
>> the utility of the IDE plugins (the three IDEs of which I’m aware are: 
>> LightTable, NightCode, and clooj).
>> 
>> One important element that allowed much of this for Clojure was the early 
>> development of nREPL, the network-enabled REPL. With this, all editors/IDE 
>> plugins stand on equal footing with access to the REPL. I noticed in the 
>> code to REPL.jl there’s a function `start_repl_server`, but it doesn’t seem 
>> to be used anywhere.
>> 
>> If I had to pick someplace to focus effort on improving tooling for Julia in 
>> general, I’d look at improving/adding a network interface to the REPL.
> 
> I very much agree. Currently the Emacs interface uses ESS for Julia,
> which is not well-adapted to Julia for historical reasons. Having
> something like Swank or nREPL would make things much easier
> (non-blocking evaluation, integrated introspection, debugging, etc).
> 
> Best,
> 
> Tamas

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