Paul brings up a good point.

The only thing I don't like about HTML is that your options for
controlling layout are limited. I think it also presents some
challeneges in the separation of text and images, which I think is
important for translation. Printing HTML docs can be tricky too.

I've done work on a simple help viewer. It basically does what Larry
talks about, but also includes support for images. I could use it
instead. But that would take a week or two of work...I'll have to chew
on it.

You could probably look at the issue this way:

Disadvantages of PDF help documentation:
- Size of files.
- External Viewer Needed

Advantages of PDF help documentation:
- Exact control over document layout.
- Easy hard copy printing.
- Access to documentation from outside the application.
- Common document format.

I think for something like a Plug-In I would include the PDF files in
the download. For something like a user or developer manual I would
package the PDF as a separate download.

I guess I'm just a fan of PDF. :] It must be the graphic artist in me.
Still, this discussion is good, as I hadn't considered the size issue.

If someone is willing to develop an alternative help system that will
be supported in OpenJUMP, I will strive to make my plug-in help docs
conform.

Thanks.

The Sunburned Surveyor

P.S. - Larry: On my Linux system the PDF viewer is FOSS.
P.S.S. - Paul: In my perspective PDF documentation that is larger than
the actual code is a sign of a well documented program, which most
FOSS is not. I think there are several popular FOSS programs where the
help docs are larger than the code base.


On 10/17/07, Paul Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And if you need to have some pretty formatting or images use HTML.
>
> On another perspective on the issue. HTML is a fairly low overhead way
> to encode text. PDF files on the other hand have a lot of overhead.
>
> If we look at this one page PDF it takes up 164KB where as a HTML
> document with image would probably be 5kb.
>
> If we have 1000 functions in OpenJUMP with 1 page of help the PDF files
> would be around a 164MB download as opposed to about 2MB with HTML (my
> math is correct the image 3KB is shared across all the pages in the HTML
> with only 2KB of text that differs).
>
> Just another way to think about it. Your help files should not be bigger
> in size than the code!
>
> Paul
>
>
> Larry Becker wrote:
> > PDF is just a non-standard way to do help.   All you have is some
> > text.  You should just pop up a window with a text component and
> > display it.  Don't make me open another (non-free) application to view
> > your help.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> >
>
>
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