ok...
I sat down for an hour or so and wrote some things up with respect to the questionaire. See attachment.

This is just some food for thoughts for those that are missing information. I think that I am not "ready" to discuss this topic by tomorrow... maybe next week or somewhen in June? We should give us time. I also guess that we need to do another chat/skype session on that. But the problem this time will be the time differences.

stefan

PS: this could be actually the first time to move a topic to the jpp-comitee list. But as this would require for some to subscribe to yet another list.. I leave this ;)
OpenJUMP joining OSGEO: walking through the criteria

http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/evaluation.html

Criteria
========
1. The code is under an OSI approved license (data & doc projects 
need to specify their choice for a type of license).
code: 
. OpenJUMP GPL 
. JTS: LGPL 
. BSD + Apache : e.g. BATIK libs
. freeware ? 
TODO
. check library licenses
. some parts of code need to be checked: e.g. L.P. Chews code, JMathTools code
. some headers need to be revised

2. The project is willing to keep code clear of encumbrances
. yes

3. The project is "geospatial", or directly in support of geospatial
applications. 
. yes

Desirable
=========
The following are desirable traits of projects entering into the
community:

1. Open source software is already reasonably mature (working quality code).
. yes, I think so

2. Project already has a substantial user community.
. yes, I think so (what is substantial?)

3. Project already has a substantial and diverse developer community.
. yes, I think so (what is substantial?)

4. Project members are aware of, and implements support for, relevant standards 
(ie. OGC, etc).
. yes

5. Project has linkages with existing foundation projects.
. yes: gvSIG, GeoTools, deegree

6. Project fills a gap related to software that the foundation supports.
. well??? It depends how one answers whether QGIS, GRASS and gvSIG fill the GAP 
;)
. But due to OpenJUMP's features of
.. advanced tools for geometric data editing and data conflation, and 
.. enabling some kind of rapid prototyping in Java, 
I would say it fills a gap with respect to Desktop GIS. 

7. Project is prepared to develop in an open and collaborative fashion.
. yes (we are hosted at SourceForge)

8. Project has contributions and interest from more than just one 
company/organization.
. yes: we are mainly volunteers supported by 2-4 companies and at least 2 
institutions

9. Project is willing to migrate some or all of its infrastructure
(code repository, web site, wiki, mailing list, etc) to foundation
support infrastructure, and to adopt a website style consistent with the
foundation. 
. yes if that would be an requirement, 
. but as it is optional: "No". 
I as co-maintainer would prefer to stay with SourceForge at the current 
time (this is for us a matter of user support: changing from an official 
repository after 3-4 years would be not a good choice. Further, we lack 
the resources to move everything: from wikis, webpages, forums, mail lists, 
to sources, downloads, bug reports, and feature requests). 

=======================================================
http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/application.html

1.  Please provide the name and email address of the principal Project Owner.
There is actually no "owner" but 2 persons with major admin rights
. S. Steiniger: sstein-.-geo.uzh.ch
. L. Blake: sunburned.surveyor-.-gmail.com
Todo: replace by complete names in case of submission

2. Please provide the names and emails of co-project owners (if any).
. ---

3. Please provide the names, emails and entity affiliation of all official 
committers
. is that of interest even if we do not move from SourceForge?
. I am not sure how to handle this, as we want to be as open as possible. That 
is some
people join and people leave.
. TODO: need to get this from SourceForge
.. the most important ones:
... P. Austin
... L. Becker
... A. Schmitz
... J. Aquino
... M. Davis
... M. Michaud
... S. Steiniger
... L. Blake
... G. Aruta 
... others: S.L. Teichmann, E. Lemesre, P. Rizzi, S. Holl
... former: S. Tanner, U. Taddei  

4. Please describe your Project.

The project focuses on the maintenance and the further devlopment of OpenJUMP, 
which is 
a Java based Desktop GIS. It is currently maintained by a community of 
volunteers 
under the umbrella of the Jump-Pilot Project. We have no strikt rules for 
contributions.
Only repository write access is given after an informal approval by at least 2 
project 
volunteers. The current development is resources driven. We do not have a formal
development plan except for the case of maintenance. In the last years we had 
about one
release a year. 

5. Why is hosting at OSGeo good for your project?
. it could encourage the project to adopt more formal guide lines
. publicity
. we feel that we are part of the OSGEO community

6. Type of application does this project represent(client, server, standalone, 
library, etc.):
. standalone desktop GIS

7. Please describe any relationships to other open source projects.
. TODO: this will be a very long article... (thinking about all the branches:
JUMP, SkyJUMP, Pirol, SIGLE, DeeJUMP, KOSMO and relations: JTS, gvSIG, 
OrbisGIS, 
uDIg, GeoTools ... but the question is: What involves a relation?)

8. Please describe any relationships with commercial companies or products.
. TODO: check the list
.. previously and now involved companies
... Vivid Solutions: original creator of the software (put it under an 
OpenSource License GPL)
... Lat/Lon GmbH: contribution in terms of function development on a project 
base
... Intevation GmbH: contribution in terms of function development on a project 
base
... ISA Inc.: contribution in terms of function development on a project base
... RevolSys: contribution in terms of function development on a project base
... Larry Becker: contribution in terms of function development on a project 
base
... CadPlan: probably in future contributions of function development on a 
project base

9. Which open source license(s) will the source code be released under?
. GPL

10. Is there already a beta or official release?
. yes: OpenJUMP 1.2 (Release F)

11. What is the origin of your project (commercial, experimental, thesis or 
other higher education, government, or some other source)?
. commercial, government founded
 
12. Does the project support open standards? Which ones and to what extent? 
(OGC, w3c, ect.) 
. OGC: SFS, GML 2.0, WFS, WMS 1.1.1 
- Has the software been certified to any standard (CITE for example)? 
. no
- If not, is it the intention of the project owners to seek certification at 
some point?
. if we find somebody to pay for: yes... otherwise: no

13. Is the code free of patents, trademarks, and do you control the copyright?
. yes: in term of licenses (it is mainly GPL), no: in terms of author copyright

14. How many people actively contribute (code, documentation, other?) to the 
project at this time?
. 8 (in the last 4 months)
. 14 (past 12 months)

see also: http://www.ohloh.net/projects/9819

15. How many people have commit access to the source code respository?
. 18 people (inlcuding some people that more or less retired and 2 Google 
Summer of Code student

16. Approximately how many users are currently using this project?
. no idea: 
. but we have about 300 user-list subscriptions (old user list, 
new list since March 2008: 30) 
. 70 on the developer list. 
. We had about 3000 downloads of Version 1..2 F from April to June 2008

17. What type of users does your project attract (government, commercial, 
hobby, academic research, etc. )?
. all of them, but focus is on research + government + hobby

18. If you do not intend to host any portion of this project using the OSGeo 
infrastructure, why should you be considered a member project of the OSGeo 
Foundation?
. because of our tight links to other Java projects,
. we feel that we are part of the OSGEO family
. to improve our visibilty (attracting new users, developers, contributors)

19. Does the project include an automated build and test?
. automated build: yes
. tests (such as JUnit?): no

20. What language(s) are used in this project? (C/Java/perl/etc)
. JAVA

21. What is the dominant written language (i.e. English, French, Spanish, 
German, etc) of the core developers?
. English

22. What is the (estimated) size of a full release of this project? How many 
users do you expect to download the project when it is released? 
. size: 
.. sourcecode (zip): 16MB 
.. binary (exe): 11.5 MB (without documentation)
. expected downloads:
.. see above: ca. 500-1000/month for the OpenJUMP (core only; see statistics on 
SourceForge).
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