mhm.. that is a interesting and simple (=doable) idea :)
one could actually also fix the name for the standard file, e.g. 
standard-plugins.xml or stdplugin-config.xml or so

stefan

Larry Becker wrote:
> I'm sure that would be a relatively easy mod to the code that loads the 
> workbench-properties.  We can define a convention that your 
> workbench-properties file will be called, say, 
> my-workbench-properties.xml.  Then all we have to do is add the "my-" 
> and load it too.
> 
> regards,
> Larry
> 
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> 
>     Hei Larry,
> 
>     Want I meant is a bit different (sorry for all the spelling errors). My
>     problem is that I want to provide 2 property files. In Eclipse I tried
>     it with 2 times calling -properties with different files, but then it
>     picks only the first one.
> 
>     Stefan
> 
>     Larry Becker wrote:
>      > There is always the " -properties workbench-properties.xml"
>     switch. Just
>      > modify it to point to another path.
>      >
>      > Larry
>      >
>      > On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Stefan Steiniger
>     <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>      > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >     Ok... now the big question:
>      >
>      >     how can tell OJ to use two workbecnh-properties files?
>      >     because I don't want to mix up the OJ plugins with my own
>     plugins that I
>      >      programmed over the years?
>      >
>      >     If one could use multiple files, then this would also make
>     Larrys note
>      >     obsolete.
>      >
>      >     Stefan
>      >
>      >     Larry Becker schrieb:
>      >      > Hi Stefan,
>      >      >
>      >      >   Nice work.  I can think of one small issue related to the
>      >     installer.
>      >      > It will now be necessary to distribute the
>     workbench-properties.xml
>      >      > file.  This means that if someone customizes their file,
>     it will be
>      >      > replaced on the next update, as this will be necessary to
>     get new
>      >      > features in new releases.  People will have to get used to
>     keeping an
>      >      > old copy of their customizations and reapplying them after
>     each
>      >     update.
>      >      >
>      >      > regards,
>      >      > Larry
>      >      >
>      >      > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Stefan Steiniger
>      >     <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>      >      > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>> wrote:
>      >      >
>      >      >     Hei,
>      >      >
>      >      >     @Paolo... I think I regard your points as nice to have
>     (with
>      >     respect to
>      >      >     server-client stuff: although I know that Jump has
>     been also
>      >     used as
>      >      >     base for a web-gis-server ;)
>      >      >
>      >      >     @all:
>      >      >     I moved today the workbench-properties.xml around to
>     the bin
>      >     folder. So
>      >      >     if the next nightly build works with test plugin (I
>     found a
>      >     very olf
>      >      >     "Magnifyer" function ;o) we can start moving first the
>      >     additional OJ
>      >      >     plugins (except data IO). Then we need to check how it
>     will
>      >     affect the
>      >      >     ordering of the functions in the menus. I expect a lot of
>      >     refactoring
>      >      >     just for that. But I think we will not break anything,
>     as the
>      >     changes
>      >      >     will be only for the (new to add) initialize methods,
>     i.e. on
>      >     the gui
>      >      >     side only.
>      >      >
>      >      >     => any comments on that?
>      >      >     mhm.. may be one from myself: The removal of menus such as
>      >     suggested by
>      >      >     Carl will not be possible (e.g. the complete removal
>     of tht
>      >     "Tools"
>      >      >     menu), except we are able to move all functions into
>     the xml
>      >     file for
>      >      >     one menu.
>      >      >
>      >      >     Something different: I also moved some of the functions in
>      >      >     tools/analysis/ to two new submenus.
>      >      >
>      >      >     stefan
>      >      >
>      >      >     P.Rizzi Ag.Mobilità Ambiente schrieb:
>      >      >      > If I can tell my opinion the whole configuraiton
>     should be
>      >     in the
>      >      >     xml file.
>      >      >      > I don't like the way some plugins are "hardly"
>     configured
>      >     in Java
>      >      >     code.
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > There should be nothing really "basic" and hardly
>     configured,
>      >      >     because it
>      >      >      > will be impossible to remove that and, besides,
>     what is really
>      >      >     "basic"
>      >      >      > depends upon what each person would do with OJ.
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > Then a series of pre-canned XML file could be
>     prepared so that
>      >      >     several
>      >      >      > "common" OJ configuration could be started, by choosing
>      >     one of them.
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > Problem is plugin dependency, but that could be
>     leaved in the
>      >      >     hand of the user,
>      >      >      > or whoever prepare the XML file, so that each
>     configuration is
>      >      >     coherent
>      >      >      > and working. Or a real third-party container can be
>     used, but
>      >      >     that would be
>      >      >      > a very big change in code and philosophy...
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > I'm sorry this is just my vision, but I can't put any
>      >     effort into
>      >      >     it :-(
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > Bye
>      >      >      > Paolo Rizzi
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      > P.S: And if one day OJ would be so modular that it
>     can be
>      >      >     splitted into
>      >      >      > a server part and a client (GUI) part, a special
>     XML file
>      >     would
>      >      >     be used
>      >      >      > to launch a server-only configuration, and then a
>     Web UI
>      >     could be
>      >      >     developed,
>      >      >      > or any WMS client may connect to it.
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >
>      >      >      >> -----Messaggio originale-----
>      >      >      >> Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>      >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>      >      >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>      >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>
>      >      >      >>
>     [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>      >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>      >      >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>      >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>]Per conto di
>      >      >      >> Stefan Steiniger
>      >      >      >> Inviato: lunedì 30 giugno 2008 18.27
>      >      >      >> A: OpenJump develop and use
>      >      >      >> Oggetto: Re: [JPP-Devel] disable/deactivate menu
>     with plugin?
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >> my 2 cents:
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >> . Yes for porting the functionality (didn't we ported
>      >     already)
>      >      >      >> . Question: what do we do then? Move all of the
>     stuff in
>      >      >      >> OpenJUMP/Jump
>      >      >      >> configuration which is not "basic" (basic could be
>      >     anything that is
>      >      >      >> tools) to the xml file?
>      >      >      >> . @Larry:
>      >      >      >> - Can you send such xml file? I would like to see
>     how it
>      >      >      >> looks like. [or
>      >      >      >> is it in fact looking exactly like the
>      >     workbench-properties.xml
>      >      >     file?]
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >> stefan
>      >      >      >>
>      >      >      >> Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
>      >      >      >>> I second the comments from Andreas. If I could
>     help port
>      >     this
>      >      >      >>> functionality from SkyJUMP, let me know.
>      >      >      >>>
>      >      >      >>> But perhaps we should hear what Stefan thinks
>     first...
>      >      >      >>>
>      >      >      >>> The Sunburned Surveyor
>      >      >      >>>
>      >      >      >>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Andreas Schmitz
>      >      >      >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>      >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>> wrote:
>      >      >      >>>> Larry Becker wrote:
>      >      >      >>>>
>      >      >      >>>> Hi,
>      >      >      >>>>
>      >      >      >>>>>   I can't think of a way without modifying
>      >      >      >> OpenJumpConfiguration.  If this
>      >      >      >>>>> is a popular requirement, we could add
>     functionality via
>      >      >      >> the editable
>      >      >      >>>>> workbench-properties.xml file instead of the
>      >      >      >> OpenJumpConfiguration class (as
>      >      >      >>>>> SkyJUMP does).  This would make it possible for
>     users to
>      >      >      >> add or remove
>      >      >      >>>>> functionality at will.
>      >      >      >>>> Yes, that would definitely be a nice feature. If
>     I can be
>      >      >      >> of aid in transporting
>      >      >      >>>> it from SkyJUMP, please let me know.
>      >      >      >>>>
>      >      >      >>>> Best regards, Andreas
>      >      >      >>>> --
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