Paolo wrote: "Problem is plugin dependency, but that could be leaved in the hand of the user, or whoever prepare the XML file, so that each configuration is coherent and working."
I've designed a system that allows plug-in dependencies to be validated immediately after all plug-ins are loaded and initialized. This will be included in the next release of BizzJUMP. If there was acceptance, it could be easily ported to the OpenJUMP core. Landon On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > mhm.. that is a interesting and simple (=doable) idea :) > one could actually also fix the name for the standard file, e.g. > standard-plugins.xml or stdplugin-config.xml or so > > stefan > > Larry Becker wrote: >> I'm sure that would be a relatively easy mod to the code that loads the >> workbench-properties. We can define a convention that your >> workbench-properties file will be called, say, >> my-workbench-properties.xml. Then all we have to do is add the "my-" >> and load it too. >> >> regards, >> Larry >> >> On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >> >> Hei Larry, >> >> Want I meant is a bit different (sorry for all the spelling errors). My >> problem is that I want to provide 2 property files. In Eclipse I tried >> it with 2 times calling -properties with different files, but then it >> picks only the first one. >> >> Stefan >> >> Larry Becker wrote: >> > There is always the " -properties workbench-properties.xml" >> switch. Just >> > modify it to point to another path. >> > >> > Larry >> > >> > On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Stefan Steiniger >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: >> > >> > Ok... now the big question: >> > >> > how can tell OJ to use two workbecnh-properties files? >> > because I don't want to mix up the OJ plugins with my own >> plugins that I >> > programmed over the years? >> > >> > If one could use multiple files, then this would also make >> Larrys note >> > obsolete. >> > >> > Stefan >> > >> > Larry Becker schrieb: >> > > Hi Stefan, >> > > >> > > Nice work. I can think of one small issue related to the >> > installer. >> > > It will now be necessary to distribute the >> workbench-properties.xml >> > > file. This means that if someone customizes their file, >> it will be >> > > replaced on the next update, as this will be necessary to >> get new >> > > features in new releases. People will have to get used to >> keeping an >> > > old copy of their customizations and reapplying them after >> each >> > update. >> > > >> > > regards, >> > > Larry >> > > >> > > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Stefan Steiniger >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>> wrote: >> > > >> > > Hei, >> > > >> > > @Paolo... I think I regard your points as nice to have >> (with >> > respect to >> > > server-client stuff: although I know that Jump has >> been also >> > used as >> > > base for a web-gis-server ;) >> > > >> > > @all: >> > > I moved today the workbench-properties.xml around to >> the bin >> > folder. So >> > > if the next nightly build works with test plugin (I >> found a >> > very olf >> > > "Magnifyer" function ;o) we can start moving first the >> > additional OJ >> > > plugins (except data IO). Then we need to check how it >> will >> > affect the >> > > ordering of the functions in the menus. I expect a lot of >> > refactoring >> > > just for that. But I think we will not break anything, >> as the >> > changes >> > > will be only for the (new to add) initialize methods, >> i.e. on >> > the gui >> > > side only. >> > > >> > > => any comments on that? >> > > mhm.. may be one from myself: The removal of menus such as >> > suggested by >> > > Carl will not be possible (e.g. the complete removal >> of tht >> > "Tools" >> > > menu), except we are able to move all functions into >> the xml >> > file for >> > > one menu. >> > > >> > > Something different: I also moved some of the functions in >> > > tools/analysis/ to two new submenus. >> > > >> > > stefan >> > > >> > > P.Rizzi Ag.Mobilità Ambiente schrieb: >> > > > If I can tell my opinion the whole configuraiton >> should be >> > in the >> > > xml file. >> > > > I don't like the way some plugins are "hardly" >> configured >> > in Java >> > > code. >> > > > >> > > > There should be nothing really "basic" and hardly >> configured, >> > > because it >> > > > will be impossible to remove that and, besides, >> what is really >> > > "basic" >> > > > depends upon what each person would do with OJ. >> > > > >> > > > Then a series of pre-canned XML file could be >> prepared so that >> > > several >> > > > "common" OJ configuration could be started, by choosing >> > one of them. >> > > > >> > > > Problem is plugin dependency, but that could be >> leaved in the >> > > hand of the user, >> > > > or whoever prepare the XML file, so that each >> configuration is >> > > coherent >> > > > and working. Or a real third-party container can be >> used, but >> > > that would be >> > > > a very big change in code and philosophy... >> > > > >> > > > I'm sorry this is just my vision, but I can't put any >> > effort into >> > > it :-( >> > > > >> > > > Bye >> > > > Paolo Rizzi >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > P.S: And if one day OJ would be so modular that it >> can be >> > > splitted into >> > > > a server part and a client (GUI) part, a special >> XML file >> > would >> > > be used >> > > > to launch a server-only configuration, and then a >> Web UI >> > could be >> > > developed, >> > > > or any WMS client may connect to it. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> -----Messaggio originale----- >> > > >> Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> >> > > >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>]Per conto di >> > > >> Stefan Steiniger >> > > >> Inviato: lunedì 30 giugno 2008 18.27 >> > > >> A: OpenJump develop and use >> > > >> Oggetto: Re: [JPP-Devel] disable/deactivate menu >> with plugin? >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> my 2 cents: >> > > >> >> > > >> . Yes for porting the functionality (didn't we ported >> > already) >> > > >> . Question: what do we do then? Move all of the >> stuff in >> > > >> OpenJUMP/Jump >> > > >> configuration which is not "basic" (basic could be >> > anything that is >> > > >> tools) to the xml file? >> > > >> . @Larry: >> > > >> - Can you send such xml file? I would like to see >> how it >> > > >> looks like. [or >> > > >> is it in fact looking exactly like the >> > workbench-properties.xml >> > > file?] >> > > >> >> > > >> stefan >> > > >> >> > > >> Sunburned Surveyor wrote: >> > > >>> I second the comments from Andreas. If I could >> help port >> > this >> > > >>> functionality from SkyJUMP, let me know. >> > > >>> >> > > >>> But perhaps we should hear what Stefan thinks >> first... >> > > >>> >> > > >>> The Sunburned Surveyor >> > > >>> >> > > >>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Andreas Schmitz >> > > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>> wrote: >> > > >>>> Larry Becker wrote: >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> Hi, >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>>> I can't think of a way without modifying >> > > >> OpenJumpConfiguration. If this >> > > >>>>> is a popular requirement, we could add >> functionality via >> > > >> the editable >> > > >>>>> workbench-properties.xml file instead of the >> > > >> OpenJumpConfiguration class (as >> > > >>>>> SkyJUMP does). This would make it possible for >> users to >> > > >> add or remove >> > > >>>>> functionality at will. >> > > >>>> Yes, that would definitely be a nice feature. If >> I can be >> > > >> of aid in transporting >> > > >>>> it from SkyJUMP, please let me know. >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> Best regards, Andreas >> > > >>>> -- >> > > >>>> l a t / l o n GmbH >> > > >>>> Aennchenstrasse 19 53177 Bonn, Germany >> > > >>>> phone ++49 +228 18496-12 fax ++49 +228 1849629 >> > > >>>> http://www.lat-lon.de http://www.deegree.org >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > > >>>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > iD8DBQFIaJet737OVr+Ru7oRAhlBAJ93q7eNaMJyAej/+kqp0DHGHqCCjACghiZS >> > > >>>> 3TYFjI8suDYMLQ+ac8GrNnM= >> > > >>>> =vh1b >> > > >>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! >> > Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source >> project, >> > along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic >> lameness >> > and boredom. 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