Kewl! Sunburned Surveyor wrote: > Martin wrote: "It's always nice for people to have a UI to use, > though, so I'd still > encourage one to be built in OJ." > > I'm supposed to be working on that this week. :] If I get a GUI up and > running for Proj4J I'll think about how I can get it integrated into > OpenJUMP. > > SS > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Martin Davis <mbda...@refractions.net> wrote: > >> Sounds like we're all in agreement. >> >> @SS - JEQL now has Proj4J exposed for use. So this provides a command >> line tool that pretty much does what you're suggesting. >> >> It's always nice for people to have a UI to use, though, so I'd still >> encourage one to be built in OJ. >> >> Stefan Steiniger wrote: >> >>> yep I agree here. >>> I would say OJ offers options for assigning projections and doing >>> transformations on a functional basis - i.e. no on the fly stuff? At >>> least this is the simple way to start with. >>> Though, we may think then about new measure tools. >>> >>> Sunburned Surveyor wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I found the way UDig handled projections to be a nightmare. Never >>>> could get it to work right. Now I use FW Tools instead. I'd prefer to >>>> see projections handled on a per-instance basis. Let the user keep >>>> track of what projection each layer is in. That is likely something he >>>> is doing anyways. >>>> >>>> This approach will keep the code much simpler. >>>> >>>> I think even a stand-alone reprojection tool in Java packaged with >>>> OpenJUMP might even be the best way to go. >>>> >>>> Just my 2 cents. >>>> >>>> Landon >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Martin Davis <mbda...@refractions.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Jukka, >>>>> >>>>> Do you know what lib spatiallite uses for projections? Do you have a >>>>> reference to the doc for it? >>>>> >>>>> It seems like it would be nice to have projections built right in to >>>>> JUMP. Maybe Proj4J can meet this need, since it's fairly simple and >>>>> lightweight. >>>>> >>>>> People will need to think about how coordinate systems are exposed in >>>>> JUMP. Is it just a facility for one-time transformation, with all >>>>> params supplied by the user? The next level would keep CRS information >>>>> with each layer, and automatically reproject imported data. The ultimate >>>>> (maybe?) level might be to keep data internally in its native CRS and >>>>> reproject only for display and other purposes. I think this last might >>>>> be more complex than its worth, however. I know uDig spend a loooong >>>>> time getting this right, and it might still be problematic. >>>>> >>>>> By the way, something that's not currently in Proj4J is support for >>>>> mapping to/from the huge variety of CRS specification formats which are >>>>> out there. This is a large piece of work, and at this point I don't >>>>> know when or how it might be accomplished. >>>>> >>>>> Rahkonen Jukka wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Projection support would be nice to have sometimes. By the way, the two >>>>>> new Spatialite plugins give now another alternatives. Spatialite >>>>>> databases which have been created with Spatialite-GUI contains support >>>>>> for more than 3000 projections by default. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Jukka- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Stefan Steiniger wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> So Guys - guess what: >>>>>> >>>>>> Martin revived Proj4j, i.e. Proj4 for Java >>>>>> >>>>>> http://lin-ear-th-inking.blogspot.com/2010/01/announcing-proj4j.html >>>>>> >>>>>> seems like we can start thinking about to seriously give OpenJUMP >>>>>> projection support (for those that don't use PostGIS - like me) ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> thank you Martin! >>>>>> >>>>>> stefan >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> The Planet: dedicated and managed hosting, cloud storage, colocation >>>>>> Stay online with enterprise data centers and the best network in the >>>>>> business >>>>>> Choose flexible plans and management services without long-term contracts >>>>>> Personal 24x7 support from experience hosting pros just 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