Hi,

We had two use cases a few weeks ago: application is working with a UTM 
projection epsg:3067 and it should show UTM coordinates of cursor location in 
one coordinate box but also WGS84 lat/lon coordinates in another coordinate box 
real time.  And users should be able to feed manually coordinates in tree 
systems: WGS84, UTM based epsg:3067 and Finnish national epsg:2393.  This time 
we had to do conversion outside OpenJUMP.

-Jukka-


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Lähettäjä: Stefan Steiniger [mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch]
Lähetetty: ke 3.2.2010 19:29
Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use
Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Proj4j - Martin steps ahead
 
yep I agree here.
I would say OJ offers options for assigning projections and doing 
transformations on a functional basis - i.e. no on the fly stuff? At 
least this is the simple way to start with.
Though, we may think then about new measure tools.

Sunburned Surveyor wrote:
> I found the way UDig handled projections to be a nightmare. Never
> could get it to work right. Now I use FW Tools instead. I'd prefer to
> see projections handled on a per-instance basis. Let the user keep
> track of what projection each layer is in. That is likely something he
> is doing anyways.
> 
> This approach will keep the code much simpler.
> 
> I think even a stand-alone reprojection tool in Java packaged with
> OpenJUMP might even be the best way to go.
> 
> Just my 2 cents.
> 
> Landon
> 
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Martin Davis <mbda...@refractions.net> wrote:
>> Jukka,
>>
>> Do you know what lib spatiallite uses for projections?  Do you have a
>> reference to the doc for it?
>>
>> It seems like it would be nice to have projections built right in to
>> JUMP.  Maybe Proj4J can meet this need, since it's fairly simple and
>> lightweight.
>>
>> People will need to think about how coordinate systems are exposed in
>> JUMP.  Is it just a facility for one-time transformation, with all
>> params supplied by the user?  The next level would keep CRS information
>> with each layer, and automatically reproject imported data. The ultimate
>> (maybe?) level might be to keep data internally in its native CRS and
>> reproject only for display and other purposes.  I think this last might
>> be more complex than its worth, however.  I know uDig spend a loooong
>> time getting this right, and it might still be problematic.
>>
>> By the way, something that's not currently in Proj4J is support for
>> mapping to/from the huge variety of CRS specification formats which are
>> out there.  This is a large piece of work, and at this point I don't
>> know when or how it might be accomplished.
>>
>> Rahkonen Jukka wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Projection support would be nice to have sometimes.  By the way, the two 
>>> new Spatialite plugins give now another alternatives.  Spatialite databases 
>>> which have been created with Spatialite-GUI contains support for more than 
>>> 3000 projections by default.
>>>
>>> -Jukka-
>>>
>>>
>>> Stefan Steiniger wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> So Guys - guess what:
>>>
>>> Martin revived Proj4j, i.e. Proj4 for Java
>>>
>>> http://lin-ear-th-inking.blogspot.com/2010/01/announcing-proj4j.html
>>>
>>> seems like we can  start thinking about to seriously give OpenJUMP
>>> projection support (for those that don't use PostGIS - like me) ;)
>>>
>>> thank you Martin!
>>>
>>> stefan
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