On 06.10.2011 23:20, Rahkonen Jukka wrote: > I do not understand either, but when it comes to QGIS it is a bit different > thing. QGIS is using GDAL and fresh GDAL versions are using ECW JPEG 2000 > SDK 4.x with a more complicated license. Old gdal versions up till 1.7.0 > used SDK 3.x and they may ship with ECW support without additional downloads. > This is such a version:
while playing around with ecw, i also checked gdal but version 1.8.1 and taht ships with ecw sdk 3.3 support. as far as i could see, it supports ecw v4 libs, if i download (or purchase) it and compile the gdal plugins linking/compiling the ecw v4 sources myself. > I almost believe after reading the EULAs I have in my hands that it was > allowed, even encouraged by ER Mapper, to deliver the redistriputable dll's > with software, but not as separate downloads. Only primary download place was > the ER Mapper site. true for licenses after 3.3 . they have clauses enforcing support for streams and distribution together with the main application. you might want to check the ecw license in svn regarding this ;) ..ede > > -Jukka Rahkonen- > > ________________________________________ > Lähettäjä: Michaël Michaud [michael.mich...@free.fr] > Lähetetty: 6. lokakuuta 2011 23:42 > Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use > Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Problems with Nightly Builds - ecw license again > > Hi, > > I do not understand clearly either ecw license terms, or Stephan reasons > or Ede's explanation. > What I understand is that the problem is quite complex, and that some > other projects choose > to not ship dll with their software. > http://users.qgis.org/planet/tag/ecw/ > > I think OpenJUMP core must also stay as clean of proprietary code as > possible, > > Ideally, ecw stuff should be packaged in a downloadable extension. > A simpler solution could be to just remove dlls, and in case the user wants > to load a ecw file, open a dialog box explaining what to do. > > Ede, what do you think ? > > Michaël > > > Le 06/10/2011 18:40, Stefan Steiniger a écrit : >> Hi all, >> >> at the end its Intevations decision, which based on their company >> policy. And if we can't keep going with the builds on their >> infrastructure I am thankful to Intevation, in particular Sascha and >> Stephan for their support over the past years. >> If there is no more to say from Intevation after Edgars last email, then >> we@OJ will have to decide what we do and get back to you then. >> >> @JPPDevels >> Yes Stephan is right, when we did setup the whole Nightly Build process >> some time ago - we/I agreed that ecw will not be included and instead we >> used/added the dummy class. >> >> On the other hand - I am not seeing a need to have ecw included in the >> (daily) nightly build. If it the dlls are removed from there and later >> added again for a regular release version, then I am fine with that = my >> 2 cents. >> >> cheers from the west of Canada >> stefan >> >> >> On 06/10/2011 10:20 AM, edgar.sol...@web.de wrote: >>> On 06.10.2011 17:25, Stephan Holl wrote: >>>> Yes, since the ECW-binaries are included in the builds now (since >>>> r2425 and r2442) we cannot distribute them with the binaries included >>>> anymore. >>> by that you mean, you do not want to i guess. could you please elaborate >>> why? >>> >>>> This is not allowed by the GPL! >>> the current usage of ecw code (with available& modifiable sources btw.) >>> should fall under >>> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLAndPlugins >>> >>> ecw code not at all calls anything in oj. so this plugin is not based on >>> gpl'd oj code. the java binding btw. is gpl'd by gvsig, the authors. >>> >>>> So if the OpenJump-community wants this included (which is not allowed) >>>> we will stop supporting the the nightly builds from our side. >>>> >>>> Sorry about that. >>> ok, so we might have to reconsider if we externalize the binaries once >>> again, the ecw 3.3 license as far as i see allows that. >>> >>>> It was clearly communicated with Stefan Steiniger to have the nightlies >>>> without any proprietary codes in it. >>> sorry, but i have never heard of this agreement, and although i understand >>> what you want, i still don't understand why you insist on it. the ecw sdk >>> 3.3 license clearly allows a usage as we do now. the gpl is fine with a >>> plugin usage as well. >>> >>> thanks ede >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >>> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >>> threats, fraudulent activity and more. 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