On 06.10.2011 22:42, Michaël Michaud wrote: > Hi, > > I do not understand clearly either ecw license terms, or Stephan reasons > or Ede's explanation.
please see my last mail "ecw licensing is no issue" > What I understand is that the problem is quite complex, and that some > other projects choose > to not ship dll with their software. > http://users.qgis.org/planet/tag/ecw/ in version after 3.3 ecw restricted the license terms so much, that it became impossible to distribute the binaries. So these projects chose to offer an interface but leave the building and license purchasing to the user themselves. remember, GPL is all about user freedom to do whatever he wants with the software. users can actually combine GPL with any license as long as they do not distribute the result. > > I think OpenJUMP core must also stay as clean of proprietary code as > possible, actually it still is. all proprietary code in releases is currently in lib/native. that's separation enough for me for now. i have to repeat. if we _want_ to keep ecw out, we do it. but we are not forced to do so by any means. > > Ideally, ecw stuff should be packaged in a downloadable extension. > A simpler solution could be to just remove dlls, and in case the user wants > to load a ecw file, open a dialog box explaining what to do. i only see disadvantages to do so, but after all we are a group and do decisions together disadvantage: - usability loss, users have to download & install - extra effort (add message where to download etc.) > > Ede, what do you think ? > see above ;) ..ede PS: regarding the intevation nightly build i have no issue to setup a plain oss profile, so they don't have nothing to complain about. > > > Le 06/10/2011 18:40, Stefan Steiniger a écrit : >> Hi all, >> >> at the end its Intevations decision, which based on their company >> policy. And if we can't keep going with the builds on their >> infrastructure I am thankful to Intevation, in particular Sascha and >> Stephan for their support over the past years. >> If there is no more to say from Intevation after Edgars last email, then >> we@OJ will have to decide what we do and get back to you then. >> >> @JPPDevels >> Yes Stephan is right, when we did setup the whole Nightly Build process >> some time ago - we/I agreed that ecw will not be included and instead we >> used/added the dummy class. >> >> On the other hand - I am not seeing a need to have ecw included in the >> (daily) nightly build. If it the dlls are removed from there and later >> added again for a regular release version, then I am fine with that = my >> 2 cents. >> >> cheers from the west of Canada >> stefan >> >> >> On 06/10/2011 10:20 AM, edgar.sol...@web.de wrote: >>> On 06.10.2011 17:25, Stephan Holl wrote: >>>> Yes, since the ECW-binaries are included in the builds now (since >>>> r2425 and r2442) we cannot distribute them with the binaries included >>>> anymore. >>> by that you mean, you do not want to i guess. could you please elaborate >>> why? >>> >>>> This is not allowed by the GPL! >>> the current usage of ecw code (with available& modifiable sources btw.) >>> should fall under >>> https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLAndPlugins >>> >>> ecw code not at all calls anything in oj. so this plugin is not based on >>> gpl'd oj code. the java binding btw. is gpl'd by gvsig, the authors. >>> >>>> So if the OpenJump-community wants this included (which is not allowed) >>>> we will stop supporting the the nightly builds from our side. >>>> >>>> Sorry about that. >>> ok, so we might have to reconsider if we externalize the binaries once >>> again, the ecw 3.3 license as far as i see allows that. >>> >>>> It was clearly communicated with Stefan Steiniger to have the nightlies >>>> without any proprietary codes in it. >>> sorry, but i have never heard of this agreement, and although i understand >>> what you want, i still don't understand why you insist on it. the ecw sdk >>> 3.3 license clearly allows a usage as we do now. the gpl is fine with a >>> plugin usage as well. >>> >>> thanks ede >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a >>> definitive record of customers, application performance, security >>> threats, fraudulent activity and more. 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