Hi,
I tested today the new editing toolbar. On windows 7
I agree with Michael, there must be a border to. It makes the bar more visible 
as a set of tool. The actual frame can be easly misundertood as a decoration 
(strange) into the workbench.
Drag/double clicking can be a little confusing. Is it possible to set only 
right double clicking to close the bar?
Agree to leave the old icon. It is used since forever to open/close editing 
bar. Wrench icon  really can be confused with a OJ system option. More than 
this SkyJUMP, Kosmo and AdbToolbox (the other OJ family software) use the same 
icons. In the possible future reunification of these software(it has already 
happend between Jump, OJ the Merge, ect)  it is better to leave 
icons/visibilities/etc as they are. 
For the usability, I like Ede modification.
Peppe


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 Da: Landon Blake <sunburned.surve...@gmail.com>
A: OpenJump develop and use <jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> 
Inviato: Lunedì 9 Luglio 2012 1:29
Oggetto: Re: [JPP-Devel] editing toolbox
 
I agree it is good to get rid of the empty space in the toolbox, but
I'm +1 for keeping the close button. I think the lack of a close
button is going to confuse people.

Landon

On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Stefan Steiniger <sst...@geo.uzh.ch> wrote:
> (a) true - I assume there will be no harm with leaving it
> (b) true as well, a wrench is usually used for system setting and
> point/line/poly makes more sense
>
> stefan
>
> Am 08.07.12 14:06, schrieb edgar.sol...@web.de:
>> On 08.07.2012 19:45, Michaël Michaud wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>> When it comes to using double click, I am still skeptical though. I
>>>> would perhaps switch off that behaviour. My "expection" on double
>>>> clicking anywhere is not that I close something but open something. So
>>>> it's a bit contradictory ;)
>>> I did not notice this contradiction, but now that you say...
>>> And I've rarely used the toolbar button to close the toolbox,
>>> but it makes sense and I can change ;-)
>>
>> well, i wouldn't say contradict but it's not usual convention, right. on the 
>> other hand i can't see the harm here. users accidentially doubleclicking on 
>> it or hovering over it will learn about it and can decide to use or ignore 
>> it. doubleclicking on titlebars by convention maximizes/normalizes windows 
>> at least on windows os so user can expect some functionality here. as 
>> maximizing makes no sense i argue hiding is a valid option.
>>
>> let's wait and see if users complain, because their everyday user experience 
>> suffers. i'll expect no such thing.
>>
>> regarding the icon i see your point stefan but can as well live with the old 
>> one. i've seen toolbox icons (tools in a box or wrench / hammer) for the 
>> floating toolbox panel in other software but michael is also right that it 
>> is often used for setting dialogs as well.
>>
>> ..ede
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