Hi,
No need to hurry up, Peppe. Just want to discuss this point and to make
it evolve in a concerted manner.
First of all, I fully understand your initial need to differentiate
in-memory
layers from persistent layers. I also need this feature and thought that we
could achieve it using different font/color/background...
Not so easy indeed as it may be combined with editable bold,
red)/selectable
(italic) information.
Maybe we could use a different background for persisted layers (or just
write them with a bold font...). It would not be too difficult to test.
Another (more complex) solution would be to add a column in the layer
name panel : datasource icon (+ tooltip for name) / style icon / visibility
checkbox / name
@Jukka, I also often use the "feature count" tooltip. It is not very
easy to justify
why we should keep this information and not that one, but experience
tends to
prove that this one should stay. Filename datasource or wms url are also
very
useful, but their name can be very long and finally, I think I'd rather
not have it
in the tooltip. I would not mind to have it in a tooltip associated with
the layer
name appearing on the top of context menu though.
@Ede, whether for website or for software, I generally prefer bare
design where
things are hidden but easy to access (from my point of view, google main
search
page is a model), than design where everything you can do is shown at
first place
and where what you really need is hard to find (you'll easily find
examples ;-)
Proposal :
- changing font/background of persistent layers
- just keep # of features and move current tooltip to the layer name on
top of the
context menu
- other solutions to explore (making tooltip optional, creating a new
column
in the layerNamePanel...),
Michaël
Le 25/03/2015 14:18, Giuseppe Aruta a écrit :
I added the new tooltip as I needed to check which layer (Layer.class)
was already saved as file and which was still in memory: I found that,
if I was using several tools (= creating several layers in memory),
than the list was quite long and I (the user) had only the right-click
option (or closing the project) to reselect the layer needed.
Than I realized that other infos should be useful for user, file path
for instance. That's why the tooltip took that size.
To plan the size I only checked on Kosmo code.
Again. I can revert modifications and make this new more informative
tooltip as an option.
So user can choose whether they want to know only the feature-count
(the OJ 1.6 tooltip) or more information (actual OJ NB).
@Jukka. Sextante Raster Image Layer has already a more informative
right-click plugin. It is called Raster Layer Property. I probably put
more info that an user needed [more that other OpenSource GIS
probabily ;)] but they cover any possible need we can find (path,
raster, extension). I'd probably add a new panel for the raster cell
statistics (which actually is an independent plugin). One of the
potential of this raster property plugin is that all the info can be
saved as an HTML file: I adopted a conservative solution using
panels/frames already embedded into OJ (no need of extra one)
I agree with you that Layer.class property panel should be updated.
And also WMS probably need a similar panel, even if actually some wms
info are displayed using "Edit WMS layer" or the
BeanTool>Display_WMS_url.
Anyhow a common solution for all the type of layerable should be
welcome (to make life easier for users)
my 2 cents
Peppe
2015-03-25 10:58 GMT+01:00 Rahkonen Jukka (MML)
<jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi
<mailto:jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi>>:
Hi,
I think that I agree with Michaël. I use frequently the tooltip
for checking the feature count on vector layers. From the new
info items the source path would also be frequently interesting.
For the image layers source path is good and for WMS layers the
url. Url should rather be shown without basic auth
username:password but I guess that it comes as such from the system.
Other information could well be available from Right click - Layer
properties which should be available with the same name and icon
also for WMS and Sextante raster layers.
-Jukka Rahkonen-
Michaël Michaud wrote:
> Hey,
> Sorry to insist, but today, I get some feedback from a user who
tested a fresh version of OpenJUMP, and immediately asked me why
we added this extra-large yellow tooltip on layer names.
> I think it displays useful information, but it is currently too
intrusive, and it should be made either optional or available
through the right click menu only. What other users say ?
My 2 cents,
Michaël
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