if we are talking about 1MB footprint for PLUS i have no objections. if much more we should investigate how to minimize further ..ede
On 28.08.2018 13:35, Giuseppe Aruta wrote: > Hi > sorry if I resume the topic. > I would like to have also the opinion of Alberto, Ede, Jukka, Stefan and > possible other members about it. > - Add OpenKLEM plugin into OpenJUMP PLUS distribution (no depency required) - > Thanks again > Peppe > > 2018-08-25 9:35 GMT+02:00 Giuseppe Aruta <giuseppe.ar...@gmail.com > <mailto:giuseppe.ar...@gmail.com>>: > > Hi Michael > thanks for the answer > Yes. I your right. I was wrong to make a comparision. Indeed my idea was > to only to demostrate that OpenKLEM can be > a good integration of Sextante. > > Sextante still is a valid set of tools for raster analysis. The problems > are only to some tools which are bugged > (strangely only with OpenJUMP, neither Kosmo nor GvSIG - the same > Sextante version) > > Regarding OpenKLEM tools,. > A good 50% are generic raster tools that should be used together/before > any analysis (raster calculator, vector to raster, hystogram, etc) > We have them in Sextante but, as I wrote, some of them in Sextante are > buggy and some in OpenKLEM are more evident and easy to use > > Regarding raster capability. > Both OpenKLEM and Sextante rely on RasterImageLayer and use the same > corresponding low level jars. > The difference comes from the wrappers of the raster data to a grid model > and the algorithms for analysis: > Sextante uses wrappers and algorithms located into the distribution > (sextante.jar > and sextante-algorithms.jar) (*) > OpenKLEM has its own raster wrappers and algorithms (**) > > Best regards > > > > (*) Stefan did a good job to port Sextante raster wrapper structure in > OJ (OpenJUMPSextanteRasterLayer). > It should be refine in some point. > For Instance an year ago some users observed a shift of the point > coordinates of the profile tool integrated into OJ base (which was using > OpenJUMPSextanteRasterLayer ). The plugin had to be rewritten in order to > use RasterImageLayer class > (**) OpenKLEM wrappers/algorithms development traces back from the > experience of raster tools in AdbToolbox, a project derived from OpenJUMP, > which is still sponsorized by the Italian m inistry of the environment > http://www.pcn.minambiente.it/mattm/adb-toolbox/ > <http://www.pcn.minambiente.it/mattm/adb-toolbox/> (in Italian) > > 2018-08-24 23:36 GMT+02:00 Michaël Michaud <m.michael.mich...@orange.fr > <mailto:m.michael.mich...@orange.fr>>: > > Hi Peppe, > > It is very promising. OpenKLEM seems a good extension for OpenJUMP. > > Also it is nice that you could reduce dependencies. I think that a > separate extension could be OK as it offers quite specialized methods > (compared to my usage), but as we do not have an easy plugin mechanism to add > extensions through the GUI, I'm fine if you include it in the PLUS distro. > > Not sure I understand correctly the comparison with Sextante : do you > suggest to replace Sextante ? Or is it just to demonstrate that OpenKLEM adds > new useful capabilities compared to Sextant. > > I'm a bit lost when it comes to raster capabilities. Does OpenKLEM > relies on the same low-level libraries as Sextante (jai ? common-imaging ? > imageio ?), does it rely on the same raster driver as Sextante > (RasterImageLayer ?) or does it has its own ? > > Thanks, > > Michaël > > > > Le 24/08/2018 à 18:40, Giuseppe Aruta a écrit : >> Hi Jumpers >> OpenKLEM is a set of tools for basic raster and hydrological analysis >> >> http://ojwiki.soldin.de/index.php?title=Plugins_for_OpenJUMP#Raster_Analysis >> <http://ojwiki.soldin.de/index.php?title=Plugins_for_OpenJUMP#Raster_Analysis>. >> >> One of our member, Alberto De Luca, has been involved on OpenKLEM >> development. The software is used by Prof. Roberto Rossi in his course Gis >> Applications in Hydrogeology (University of Padua - >> https://didattica.unipd.it/off/2017/LM/AV/AG0062/000ZZ/AG01122459/N0 >> <https://didattica.unipd.it/off/2017/LM/AV/AG0062/000ZZ/AG01122459/N0>). >> >> In the last 2 months, in agreement with Alberto and Roberto, I >> reworked OpenKLEM source code to reduce the depencies of OpenKLEM to >> external libraries (mostly OpenDocumet ones). And to make a copy of working >> OpenKLEM smaller in size and connected only to OpenJUMP plus libraries. >> >> This reduced OpenKLEM setup from 8 files(2 core files + 6 >> OpenDocuments onse)-7 Mb to 2 core files-1 Mb. >> >> My proposal in this mail is to integrate OpenKLEM to OpenJUMP PLUS. >> >> These are the advantages and integration with OpenJUMP. And a >> comparison Sextante: >> >> 1) Raster instrumentation enrichment >> the hydrographic analysis tools in OpenKLEM increases the offer of >> Sextante's raster instrumentation >> >> 2) Basic raster tools: >> Sextante has a more extensive set of basic raster instrumentation. >> But some of these have unresolved bugs (due to scarce users). Such as the >> "Sextante> Basic Hydrological Analysis> Sink Fill" tool.The equivalent >> OpenKLEM tools seem to work properly. >> >> 3) Availability of the source code. >> OpenKLEM: The raster wrappers used in OpenKLEM are integrated into >> one of the two installation files. The source code is available for any >> changes / inspections. >> Sextante: The source code of the wrapper and gui of Sextante >> (sextante.jar and sextante-gui.jar) integrated in OpenJUMP (ver 1, I >> believe) is not available (unless Stefan still saves a copy). GvSigCE has a >> recent version (2014) of Sextante still subject to developmen untill 2017t. >> I tried to recompile t it for OJ and found more dependencies to GvGIG >> libraries. I suspect that by now the two Sextante (OJ and GvSIGCE are fork) >> >> 4) Users >> Sextante. Apart from me I do not know other users who regularly use >> Sextante >> OpenKLEM. It is used in an annual university course in Padua >> >> >> Documentation:There are some papers and thesys about the usage of >> Kinematik Local Excess Model (KLEM, the hydrographic model used by >> OpenKLEM). In Italian. >> I can resume the basics and try to make a brief documentation about >> the tools, in English. >> >> Source code. I can integrate OpenKLEM source code into OpenJUMP >> repository >> >> Copyright: GNU General Public License. Alberto, you can correct me ;) >> >> In this folder you can find OpenKLEM, its source code and the >> instruction to setup: >> https://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Openjump/OpenKLEM/ >> <https://sourceforge.net/projects/opensit/files/Openjump/OpenKLEM/> >> >> I hope I have been brief and exhaustive. Waiting for your opinions >> >> Best regards >> >> Peppe >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jump-pilot-devel mailing list >> Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> <mailto:Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel >> <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > _______________________________________________ > Jump-pilot-devel mailing list > Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Jump-pilot-devel mailing list Jump-pilot-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jump-pilot-devel
