Yup Paul, you are exactly right.

My issue is that I get mixed responses, even from Juniper re MLPPPoLNS.
I know and have configured this on the E-series.... but want it on the smaller 
MX series so that I can deploy many to avoid latency and not have large central 
E-series routers.

/Liam


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Stewart [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 27 March 2012 16:41
To: 'Matthias Brumm'
Cc: Liam Murphy; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [j-nsp] Juniper BRAS

That's correct - if you have direct connectivity to the DSLAM's without the 
need to carry l2tp then you don't need the LNS functionality.

If you wanted to "forward" that traffic to another provider (wholesale it
out) then you might require LNS as a function as well.

It sounds like your usage is similar to our usage to date - we own/operate our 
own DSLAM's therefore it's just "native PPPOE" for us.

Be very careful on the software load you are running on the MX5 for this 
purpose - I would highly suggest working with your SE to find a stable and 
suitable software version.  

Paul


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matthias Brumm
Sent: March-27-12 11:08 AM
To: Paul Stewart
Cc: Liam Murphy; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Juniper BRAS

Hi!

We have just ordered some MX5 to have the opportunity to provide PPPoE for 
customers.

What exactly is the meaning of lacking LNS support? If I understand correctly 
LNS is the possibility to provide a tunnel endpoint for a L2TP tunnel, sent 
from a provider, for example a DSL provider. The
MX80(5) is capable of provide a PPPoE termination, if I have L2 access to the 
DSLAMs or access switches?

Regards,

Matthias

Am 26. März 2012 14:23 schrieb Paul Stewart <[email protected]>:
> I'm not up to speed on the MLPPP stuff but would look at
> MX240/MX480/MX960 platform for sure.  The MX80 can only handle about 
> 4k sessions and has no support for LNS yet I don't believe (coming 
> though
if I'm not mistaken).
>
> Paul
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Liam Murphy [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: March-26-12 6:30 AM
> To: Paul Stewart; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [j-nsp] Juniper BRAS
>
> About 4000 sessions.
> I am just not sure if I can have MLPPPoLT2P
>
> (i.e. up to 8 ppp sessions bundled inside a MLPPP session that 
> terminates on a Juniper that is acting as an LNS, with subscriber QoS).
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
> Sent: 23 March 2012 20:40
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Juniper BRAS
>
> What kind of capacity?  M/MX is only option outside of E/ERX series...
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Liam Murphy
> Sent: March-23-12 1:22 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [j-nsp] Juniper BRAS
>
> Which Juniper router (not E-Series) is best suited for a BRAS.
> (L2TP LNS with MLPPP)
>
> Regards
>
> Liam
>
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