On 12/07/2012 05:05 AM, Michel de Nostredame wrote:
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 7:13 PM, 叶雨飞 <[email protected]> wrote:
downgrade to 9.3R4.4 then

Unfortunately 9.3 is already EOLed (
http://www.juniper.net/support/eol/junos.html )

Tuning J/SRX into packet-mode will lost several valuable functions
such as IPsec, Jflow... those are very important for small business.

Selective-packet-mode is also a huge pain from operation point of

A "huge" pain? Really? Awkward I'll grant.

view, also the Jflow will have problem under this.

I believe the best solution is to keep pushing Juniper to bring
packet-mode OS back to J-series with full functionality.

That would be nice, I agree.


At this moment, Juniper does not have product, my personal opinion, to
head-to-head compete against Cisco ISR. J-series could be the most
closed product line to fill this gap.

Personally, I have the exact opposite opinion.

The packet mode / flow mode has some hassles. But the J/SRX devices absolutely *annihilate* the Cisco ISR in terms of performance, and also in terms of price/performance.

Cisco quoted performance for a 2951 is ~300Mbps, which an SRX210, at a fraction of the cost, will easily beat. A J series just flattens it.

The ISR is a lacklustre platform IMO. It's amazingly slow for the cost, and about the only thing it can do which a J/SRX in packet mode can't is Netflow (which is a real lack) and IPSec (which you can do with a flow-mode VR).

You could argue the flow-mode VR for IPSec is awkward, but it can mostly be templated (which JunOS is good at, but IOS has no concept of).

Would the SRX with packet-mode JFlow & IPSec be even more awesome - totally. But I think it holds its own against the ISR just on price/performance.
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