One thing to keep in mind about these boxes is that, like the MX5/10/40/80, the built-in 10G ports do not do hierarchical QoS (per-unit scheduling). I'm confused as to why this is, considering they are Trio-based routers, but I digress. I personally don't think that the astronomical cost to enable the 10G ports on all the low-end MX routers is worth it, considering they can't even do per-unit scheduling.
-evt > -----Original Message----- > From: juniper-nsp [mailto:juniper-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of > joel jaeggli > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 4:00 PM > To: Saku Ytti > Cc: juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Juniper MX104 > > > On Nov 12, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Saku Ytti <s...@ytti.fi> wrote: > > > On (2013-11-12 20:14 +0000), Tom Storey wrote: > > > >> Why so much just to enable some ports? How do they come up with that > >> kind of price? Pluck it out of thin air? > >> > >> The hardware has been paid for, and I know thats only list pricing, > >> but it still seems ridiculous. > > > > The question might have been rhetoric. But I'll bite. > > > > The BOM on these boxes is nothing, I'm guessing less than 1kUSD. But the > > volume you can sell them also is very very small, so the margins need to > be > > very high to be able to design and support them. > > Licensing allows you to sell to larger group of people, people who > normally > > would buy smaller/inferior box, now can afford it, which in turn allows > you > > to reduce your margins, making you more competitive. > > > > I actually like it. I wish vendors like Agilent/Ixia, Spirent would sell > > test-kit with some sort of 'per hours used' license. Lot of SPs have need > for > > proper testing kit, but only will need them very irregularly. And renting > is > > always such a chore. It's same thing there, BOM is nothing, but volume is > even > > lower, so prices are ridiculously high, consequently proper testing is > very > > rarely done by other than telco size SPs. > > It's one of those things where you work with account team. if the commercial > terms don't work out for most potential buyers, then the product won't be > successful and either things will change or they won't. > > > -- > > ++ytti > > _______________________________________________ > > juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > > _______________________________________________ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp