RRP, AU$ MS-MIC-16G MULTI SERVICE -MIC WITH 16G FOR MX $12,903.23 MS-MPC-128G MULTI SERVICE - MPC WITH 128G FOR MX $112,903.23
...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd [email protected] ; www.eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Luca Salvatore <[email protected]> wrote: > Anyone have have a ball park figure of what the MS-MIC will cost? > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Ben Dale <[email protected]> wrote: > > > MS-MIC is out for the MX5-80: > > > > http://www.juniper.net/us/en/local/pdf/datasheets/1000454-en.pdf > > > > doesn't look like there isn't a services port on the back of the 104 > > though: > > > > > > > http://www.juniper.net/shared/img/products/mx-series/mx104/mx104-rear-high.jpg > > > > maybe you can use one of the front slots? > > > > On 13 Nov 2013, at 2:52 pm, Skeeve Stevens < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Does anyone know how many users the MX104 will be able to handle > though? > > > > > > The 4000 user limit on the MX80 was quite low. > > > > > > Does the MX104 have the services port on the back like the MX80? I'm > > waiting for the CGN Services card which was supposed to be released > around > > now. > > > > > > > > > ...Skeeve > > > > > > Skeeve Stevens - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd > > > [email protected] ; www.eintellegonetworks.com > > > Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve > > > facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; linkedin.com/in/skeeve > > > twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com > > > > > > The Experts Who The Experts Call > > > Juniper - Cisco - Cloud > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Ben Dale <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > That and I think a lot of the BRAS "migration" functionality (LNS/LAC > > etc) was late to the party after being told it wasn't going to happen for > > anything lower than the 240. > > > > > > On 13 Nov 2013, at 12:51 pm, Bill Blackford <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > My personal feeling is the MX80 wasn't widely adopted as a lower > > density > > > > subscriber box given the lack of redundant REs. The MX104 may find > it's > > > > niche as a BRAS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Eric Van Tol <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> One thing to keep in mind about these boxes is that, like the > > > >> MX5/10/40/80, the built-in 10G ports do not do hierarchical QoS > > (per-unit > > > >> scheduling). I'm confused as to why this is, considering they are > > > >> Trio-based routers, but I digress. I personally don't think that > the > > > >> astronomical cost to enable the 10G ports on all the low-end MX > > routers is > > > >> worth it, considering they can't even do per-unit scheduling. > > > >> > > > >> -evt > > > >> > > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > > >>> From: juniper-nsp [mailto:[email protected]] On > > > >> Behalf Of > > > >>> joel jaeggli > > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 4:00 PM > > > >>> To: Saku Ytti > > > >>> Cc: [email protected] > > > >>> Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Juniper MX104 > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Saku Ytti <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>>> On (2013-11-12 20:14 +0000), Tom Storey wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> Why so much just to enable some ports? How do they come up with > > that > > > >>>>> kind of price? Pluck it out of thin air? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> The hardware has been paid for, and I know thats only list > pricing, > > > >>>>> but it still seems ridiculous. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> The question might have been rhetoric. But I'll bite. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> The BOM on these boxes is nothing, I'm guessing less than 1kUSD. > But > > > >> the > > > >>>> volume you can sell them also is very very small, so the margins > > need > > > >> to > > > >>> be > > > >>>> very high to be able to design and support them. > > > >>>> Licensing allows you to sell to larger group of people, people who > > > >>> normally > > > >>>> would buy smaller/inferior box, now can afford it, which in turn > > > >> allows > > > >>> you > > > >>>> to reduce your margins, making you more competitive. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I actually like it. I wish vendors like Agilent/Ixia, Spirent > would > > > >> sell > > > >>>> test-kit with some sort of 'per hours used' license. Lot of SPs > have > > > >> need > > > >>> for > > > >>>> proper testing kit, but only will need them very irregularly. And > > > >> renting > > > >>> is > > > >>>> always such a chore. It's same thing there, BOM is nothing, but > > volume > > > >> is > > > >>> even > > > >>>> lower, so prices are ridiculously high, consequently proper > testing > > is > > > >>> very > > > >>>> rarely done by other than telco size SPs. > > > >>> > > > >>> It's one of those things where you work with account team. if the > > > >> commercial > > > >>> terms don't work out for most potential buyers, then the product > > won't be > > > >>> successful and either things will change or they won't. > > > >>> > > > >>>> -- > > > >>>> ++ytti > > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>> juniper-nsp mailing list [email protected] > > > >>>> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > > > >>>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> juniper-nsp mailing list [email protected] > > > >> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Bill Blackford > > > > > > > > Logged into reality and abusing my sudo privileges..... > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > juniper-nsp mailing list [email protected] > > > > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > juniper-nsp mailing list [email protected] > > > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > juniper-nsp mailing list [email protected] > > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > > > _______________________________________________ > juniper-nsp mailing list [email protected] > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > _______________________________________________ juniper-nsp mailing list [email protected] https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
