And, on the links I've posted yesterday, there were a couple apps that apparently will decide winmail.dat On 8 Jun 2015 1:43 am, "Seth Holmes" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Please do not take any of this as an insult, because it's not meant to be > such. It's simply a statement of fact. > > Cindy, what you really need is tech support. You have a lack of > understanding of the complex components involved in mail delivery. Despite > numerous attempts by various people here to explain them to you, you still > don't know about the different components. Lots of people don't. Like many > people, you just expect e-mail to work. But as Richard (I think it was > Richard) said,l there are a lot of moving parts here and any one of them > could be tripping you up. > > I'm sure the company you work for who handles your work mail server (which > is what deals with sending your e-mail for you) has a help desk in the IT > department who can help you through this. What you're dealing with is *not* > an uncommon problem when Microsoft is involved. Microsoft does things their > way with the expectation that everyone is using a Microsoft product. > (They're not the only ones who do this, fwiw.) > > There is no setting in K-9 you can change to make this work. K-9 simply > does not support (at this time) winmail.dat files. You may want to try > another Android client such as Kaiten (the commercial version of K-9 which > I would assume has more in depth support and feature request response), > AquaMail which the author has said supports winmail.dat. It's also possible > the native Android mail client supports winmail.dat files. But since this > is very much a Microsoft thing and you're playing in an Android world > (which expects a certain level of standards compliance), I don't think > you're going to find your answer here. > > Bottom line is K-9 does not support the winmail.dat format. > > > > On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 6:20:47 PM UTC-4, Cindy wrote: >> >> I'm not exactly sure what an exchange server is but I thought it had >> something to do with a corporation's IT department. I am a home user so I >> have no special servers or anything in my home. Just my computer connected >> to the cable modem. >> >> The file shows up fine in this forum when I sent it, but it is on my >> phone through K9 that it is showing up as winmail.dat file. >> >> The file shows up fine out on the web in Mediacom's webmail when using my >> phone and my computer. >> >> The file comes back to me and views fine on my computer when I receive it >> back into the computer. >> >> The only place the .doc files show up as a winmail.dat is on my phone >> when using K9. >> >> I can email it to you to open on your phone using K9 to let you see it >> there. If you can open it on your phone using K9 then it must be a setting >> on my phone or my K9 that needs changed. If so, just tell me what to >> change and I'll do it! >> >> Thank you, >> Cindy >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 7:01:38 AM UTC-5, Richard wrote: >> >>> The issue here is that there are many moving parts, in various >>> locations, involved. There is K9, but there is also the sender's >>> mail client/sending environment as well as the recipient mail server >>> and receiving environment. Any one of these could have changed (only >>> some parts are under the control of the end-user). >>> >>> This thread started on 5/5. Looking back through I don't see the >>> version of K9 that this issue is showing up in. Knowing the Android >>> release is helpful too. >>> >>> Both Seth and Cindy have sent .doc file attachments to the list >>> (Cindy's indicated that it was what was showing as a winmail.dat >>> file in your environment). For me at least, they both showed as .doc >>> attachments and opened fine (k9 5.103 and 5.106). >>> >>> Historically, winmail.dat files are the result of the MS environment >>> (even MS will tell you that), so that's why we suspect that it's >>> something on that side of the equation, not K9. In addition to the >>> way the user is sending mail there is the user's back-end mail, >>> which in Cindy's case I suspect is an "Exchange" server. It's >>> possible that MS released an update that changed how things are >>> handled there. It's hard to tell, without some careful testing. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------ Original Message ------------ >>> > Date: Saturday, June 06, 2015 03:59:54 AM -0700 >>> > From: Richard Vanni <[email protected]> >>> > >>> > Good to be taken seriously. Not! >>> > >>> > Op vrijdag 5 juni 2015 12:26:38 UTC+2 schreef voytek: >>> >> >>> >> I find it hard to believe (in fact, I don't). >>> >> >>> >> Please email to my email address such an email, thanks >>> >> >>> >> Voytek >>> >> >>> >> On 5 June 2015 5:19:11 am AEST, Cindy <[email protected] >>> >> <javascript:>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks for validating my issue Richard. I was beginning to >>> >>> think I was crazy saying it USED to work just fine. Cindy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, June 3, 2015 at 5:18:54 AM UTC-5, Richard Vanni >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> What many here don't understand is that this problem of >>> >>>> winmail.dat in K9 occurs only since the last few weeks. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I'm figuring out myself what's going wrong. What many here >>> >>>> don't understand is that this problem of winmail.dat in K9 >>> >>>> occurs since the last few weeks. Text, Excel, Word and other >>> >>>> attachements are received as Winmail.dat files in K9. >>> >>>> I'm using K9 for three years now and *I have never had any >>> >>>> problems with attachements. Until now*. Seems that K9 has >>> >>>> changed something during the last month. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Op vrijdag 22 mei 2015 13:15:25 UTC+2 schreef Seth Holmes: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> On May 21, 2015 11:36:10 PM EDT, Cindy <[email protected]> >>> >>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Did some more testing...sending via Outlook on my desktop, >>> >>>>>> from my gmail account to my gmail account, the document >>> >>>>>> stays as a .doc file on my phone in k9 >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> sending via Outlook on my desktop, from my mchsi account to >>> >>>>>> my mchsi account, the document comes through as a >>> >>>>>> winmail.dat file on my phone in k9 >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> However this same file (mchsi to mchsi using Outlook on my >>> >>>>>> desktop), using IE on my phone and going to Mediacom's web >>> >>>>>> mail interface out on the web, the document stays as a .doc >>> >>>>>> file >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> So why does k9 keep the .doc file intact for a gmail account >>> >>>>>> (coming from Outlook) but not for an mchsi account (coming >>> >>>>>> from Outlook) ? Keep in mind, viewing on my phone from IE >>> >>>>>> webmail interface from Mediacom also keeps the email >>> >>>>>> attachment as a .doc. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> So Mediacom is not changing anything to a winmail.dat as I >>> >>>>>> can still view it on my phone via the webmail interf! ace on >>> >>>>>> IE. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> The common factor is that it happens only in k9 on a mchsi >>> >>>>>> account. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Does that help anyone figure out what the cause could be? >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Cindy >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> On Thursday, May 21, 2015 at 10:07:21 PM UTC-5, Cindy wrote: >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> here is a word document that is showing up as a winmail.dat >>> >>>>>>> when viewing in k9 >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Cindy >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> On Saturday, May 16, 2015 at 2:34:49 PM UTC-5, Seth Holmes >>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> On 5/15/15 6:22 PM, Cindy wrote: >>> >>>>>>>> > Hi Seth, >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> > the info you gave about winmail.dat has to do with the >>> >>>>>>>> > email being >>> >>>>>>>> a rich text >>> >>>>>>>> > formatted message. >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> > That is not what I am talking about. I am using html >>> >>>>>>>> > formatted >>> >>>>>>>> message and >>> >>>>>>>> > attaching a word document (.doc) to the html formatted >>> >>>>>>>> > email. >>> >>>>>>>> > >>> >>>>>>>> > So the winmail.dat file your link is referring to has >>> >>>>>>>> > nothing to >>> >>>>>>>> do with the >>> >>>>>>>> > word document attachment that should be there. It stays >>> >>>>>>>> > a word >>> >>>>>>>> document when >>> >>>>>>>> > viewing the email out on Mediacom's web mail interface. >>> >>>>>>>> > It stays >>> >>>>>>>> a word >>> >>>>>>>> > document attachment when coming into my computer. >>> >>>>>>>> > However, on my >>> >>>>>>>> phone using >>> >>>>>>>> > k9 the word document file is no longer there and in it's >>> >>>>>>>> > place is >>> >>>>>>>> a >>> >>>>>>>> > winmail.dat file. K9 used to be able to view a word >>> >>>>>>>> > document file >>> >>>>>>>> several >>> >>>>>>>> > months ago. >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> Try reading this article: >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/office/forum/office_2007 >>> >>>>>>>> -word/word-doc-attachmentsbecome-winmaildat/5366cdd7-b966-4 >>> >>>>>>>> 8f8-9498-e85329dacab5 >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> It's a little old but also seems to cover word documents >>> >>>>>>>> showing up as >>> >>>>>>>> winmail.dat files. >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> The bottom line is that until you change the way you are >>> >>>>>>>> sending your e-mail, >>> >>>>>>>> it's going to be a problem. Part of the problem may be that >>> >>>>>>>> by e-mailing >>> >>>>>>>> yourself, Outlook is assuming you'll be able to read the >>> >>>>>>>> proprietary format >>> >>>>>>>> and does not take into account reading it on third party >>> >>>>>>>> applications. >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> I know you really want this to be something K-9 can do, but >>> >>>>>>>> it can't. It's not >>> >>>>>>>> an issue with receiving word documents. It's an issue with >>> >>>>>>>> sending them. >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> I'm going to attach a word document generated in Google >>> >>>>>>>> Docs. Let's see what >>> >>>>>>>> happens. >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> -- >>> >>>>>>>> Seth H Holmes >>> >>>>>>>> http://www.route-fu.net/ >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>> I suspect it's the mchsi mail server converting to the >>> >>>>> Microsoft proprietary format. It sees your sender and send to >>> >>>>> accounts as being mchsi and this uses a format it assumes >>> >>>>> works in both places. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> If I were you, I'd contact them to see what they may be doing. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> FWIW, when you sent you're doc, it arrived to my phone using >>> >>>>> k9 as a .doc file. >>> >>>>> -- >>> >>>>> Seth H Holmes >>> >>>>> Droid RAZR M with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >> -- >>> >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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