Dmitry Alexandrov <[email protected]> writes:

>> I would expect an attempt to send outbox when there is a new network, 
>> similar to connecting for incoming mail.
>>
>> I did "send messages" manually and they went.
>>
>> So:
>>
>>   do people agree that there should be a "send outbox" attempt when 
>> connecting to new network (if nonempty of course)?
>
> IMO, yes, an UA should attempt to send mail in ‘outbox’ as soon as possible, 
> employing all feasible techniques, because of definition of ‘outbox’.
>
> However, failed-to-sent mail should not be unattendedly queued to
> ‘outbox’ (at least, by default).  A program should ask user what to
> do: to queue it, to return to editor, to discard it at all.

I don't quite follow "unattendedly queued to outbox", because as I
understand and view things, when you click send, the message that was
draft is then moved to outbox and a sending attempt is started
asynchronously.  That may succeed within a few minutes, or fail.

I think you are ok with that, but are asking that when such a sending
attempt fails, that the error is handled differently than it is now.
Right now there is a "failed to send some messages" popup.

Are you saying that this should be per message, and offer
  try again once
  try again indefinitely (and no not ask via popup again)
  move from outbox back to drafts
  delete
or some similar set of options?

I more or less view the MUA to submission MTA hop as conceptually
similar to MTA to MTA hops, in that usually it works and occasionally it
can take a while, so I don't particularly want the above choices.  Part
of that is because I can go into outbox and delete.

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