> It is a pity that
> RedHat do not want kdb, it means that RH users have a lot of trouble
> trying to debug their systems.  OTOH SuSE are happy to include kdb in
> their distributions.

I agree 1000%! I went around and around with RH sales about this. No
complaints about the sales person, she really tried to get to the bottom
of why this is the way it is, and she even found the answer.. In talking
with her it was clear that in 99% of her conversations with RH engineers
the attitude was one of: "Debuggers produce bad fixes. Always. Debuggers
are evil.".. 

This is like blaming forks for a person being overweight. Any tool can
be used badly. No debugger is a substitute for understanding the code
and producing a good solution. But a debugger can illuminate specific
problem causes and shorten the debug cycle like few other tools can...
This whole debugger thing with RH has been frustrating beyond words. We
may even switch from RH to SuSe because of this, but mostly because RH
seems to enjoy making life hard for embedded products makers who want to
use RH. We are building VoIP test equipment and want to use RH as the OS
inside.. They are making us jump through hoops that Microsoft hasn't
even thought of yet. It's getting close to the point where it would be
cheaper per  box sold to have Windows inside than Linux.. Am I crazy or
is that just a tad upside down from where Linux is supposed to be
going???

-Charlie Dunn
 Empirix Inc.



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