https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=511816
--- Comment #5 from [email protected] --- (In reply to Nate Graham from comment #4) > Ah. What you're requesting would be basically a completely new feature, > whereby everything deemed "not currently relevant" would be hidden > completely, rather than only shown in the expanded popup. This bears no > relation to the existing "Always show all entries" feature. Yea that's basically what I suggested in the original post, i.e. > Perhaps there could be a new setting like "Show hidden icons in an expandable > menu" that I could disable. > I'm not sure this is a good idea. Let's consider some of the widgets that > can might be considered "not currently relevant", and what would happen if > they were hidden completely while not considered relevant: > - Bluetooth: unable to use the widget to turn on Bluetooth > - KDE Connect: unable to pair new devices or troubleshoot why paired devices > aren't visible > - Notifications: unable to enter "Do Not Disturb" mode > - Power & battery: unable to use the widget to change the power profile or > manually block sleep and screen locking > - Printers: unable to unpause painting if it's paused > - Vaults: unable to use the widget to create or unlock Vaults > > I could go on. > > Basically Plasma's System Tray doesn't really support the UX you're looking > for. So I don't think this is something we can do, sorry. How come this UX is completely fine and supported in Windows, but not in Plasma? The use case is essentially the same. To answer your points: - Bluetooth: I would turn on Bluetooth in System Settings. I would not want a Bluetooth icon when I have Bluetooth disabled (I would say that would make Bluetooth "irrelevant" for the sake of the "Show if relevant" option). - KDE Connect: Again, I would do this via System Settings, and if there were actually any paired devices, then it could show. But while there are 0 connected devices, I would say "irrelevant", just as with Bluetooth. - Notifications: I would enter Do Not Disturb from the System Settings (or perhaps I would set a keyboard shortcut for this or something, but I never use Do Not Disturb personally). I think showing the icon while in Do Not Disturb mode seems okay. - Power & battery: I already find it very baffling that this icon is shown on a desktop PC (which is what I am using). I have no use of battery or power settings on a desktop. It's weird to me that power and battery is considered "relevant" for a desktop PC. In any case, those things you mentioned could be done from the System Settings if I wanted to do those things. - Printers: I would say the icon should appear if there is a print job going on or printing is paused, but if there is nothing currently being printed, then the icon should not appear and it would seem irrelevant to have any option of pausing printing when no print job is going on. - Vaults: I don't use Vaults, but I feel like the icon should maybe only appear if a vault exists to unlock? Then a user like me who does not use it does not need to have the icon. I feel that the current strategy of "sprinkle the tray with a myriad of irrelevant icons that are not actually relevant right now" is not good UX. Reminds me of old web pages filled with blinking banners, contrasting with Google's clean UX page with minimal number of UI elements. Again, I remind you that the UX I am suggesting is supported perfectly well in Windows. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
