https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=508196
--- Comment #93 from NecRaul <[email protected]> --- (In reply to pallaswept from comment #87) > (In reply to NecRaul from comment #85) > > (In reply to pallaswept from comment #83) > > > (In reply to emanon from comment #82) > > > > Dolphin should behave like all the other file managers. > > > > > > Obvious troll is obvious. > > > > You can't just dismiss everyone who disagrees with you as a troll. > Never have. Starting off with a lie. > I dismiss obvious trolls who are repeating the same obvious troll arguments > they've spouted when they were obviously trolling all the other dozens of > times, since I took the time to give them a clear understanding of what's > really happening and they chose to ignore it because they're obviously > trolling. You are not the authority on what constitutes trolling. The same arguments have been made repeatedly by different people, not because they are trolls, but because the concerns are reasonable. Dismissing them as trolling simply avoids engaging with the substance of what is being said. Throughout this thread, you have focused largely on semantic distinctions, such as CWD versus PWD. While those terms are technically different, that distinction is not central to the issue being discussed. In practical conversation, both can be used interchangeably when the meaning is clear from context. > No, I have repeatedly addressed those legitimate concerns - something you > selectively ignore of course - and antagonised trolls for trolling. The people you keep labeling as trolls have raised legitimate concerns that should be addressed by the developers. Instead, you have dominated the thread while positioning yourself as the gatekeeper of what counts as valid feedback. > Is all I've discussed. You claim to have only engaged in relevant discussion, yet you also admit to antagonizing so called trolls. That behavior does not contribute constructively to resolving the issue. > A uniform solution that's intuitive for everyone and not gimped for everyone > to appease users who lack understanding seems like a smart way to do it. If uniformity is the goal, then a consistent approach would be to extend the behavior currently present in Details View to the other views as well. That idea, much like universal uniformity is stupid. Mouse driven workflows and keyboard driven workflows are fundamentally different, and treating them as identical ignores how people actually use their systems. For example, (AFAIK default behavior) double clicking the background selects all items. That does not mean pressing Enter twice should trigger the same behavior. If multiple folders are selected, should Ctrl+Shift+N create a new folder inside each of them? The previous behavior was intuitive for users. If you have the ability to read, maybe read that "Development Philosophy" that was posted earlier in the thread and try to understand if it's valuable or if it should be removed or changed because you want it to be. > I'm just trying to make sure that > a few trolls pretending they don't understand that this isn't Windows > Explorer from intentionally trying to make it as featureless as Windows > Explorer for no cause other than to troll people who are using selection > like it is supposed to be used. Oh the savior of KDE bug tracker whose many comments were tagged as spam. I guess one of the KDE people must be a troll who has it out for you. > haven't offered anything > in the form of a solution other than "it should act like every other file > explorer" which as I have demonstrated is nonsensical because Dolphin > doesn't work like them, and now I've shown you another one just like it. You have repeatedly misrepresented my position. I have never argued that Dolphin should behave like any other file manager, nor have I said it should mimic them. I do not care how other file managers behave. Please refrain from attributing positions to me that I have not expressed. > I sure as heck don't see any evidence of you having spun up 6 different > distros looking for inspiration for a solution and references to how other > similar apps deal with this. By your own argument, comparing Dolphin to other file managers is irrelevant. So suggesting that I should test multiple distributions for inspiration contradicts your earlier point. > I don't see you taking the time to explain it. > I don't see you offering a solution that might actually retain > functionality. I have already explained my position earlier in the thread, when the behavior first changed. Repeating it here would serve no purpose. I have also proposed a solution before you joined this discussion. If you missed it, that is not my responsibility. Throughout this entire discussion, your posts have been filled with misspellings (blame your gimped hands!), repeated misunderstandings, rambling tangents, and arguments that either miss the point entirely or deliberately misrepresent what others have said. I'll go with the metric that you've set for others and say you are either an obvious troll or along with your physical disability, you also have a mental one. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
