I would like to voice my support for Valorie's and Paul's statements
here. Ie: that we do comment and suggest that they diversify their
board, do it publicly, but be very VERY careful to ensure that our
support of them comes across.

We need to do this publicly too - not to excuse our past possible
transgressions on the subject - but to show a unified front with other
organisations in FLOSS/os trying to make such transgressions a thing of
the past. 

Of course the wording needs to be supportive of the FSF first and
foremost. As for WHOM they'll chose in the end, all we can do is voice
our clear hopes and intentions that FLOSS/os is more open for all, and
not just a few. 

/Jens


tor 2019-09-19 klockan 09:09 +0200 skrev Helio Chissini de Castro:
> I understand RH. The gamemis political now, is a chance to make FSF a
> real
> org to match Linux Foundation power domination recently. They just
> can't
> speak directly about this, but use the nice inclusion topic, helping
> then
> to say the message without been heavy political sided.
> 
> And i want raise a concern here as well.
> 
> The current FSF VP, Alexandre Oliva, i know personally from long
> time. He
> is as extremist as RMS, but only in software territory, and seen like
> a
> current twitter post, it shows that is going down to the hill like
> RMS.
> https://twitter.com/coralineada/status/1174410267972780033?s=21
> 
> So, we need carefully choose the words if we want to say a message.
> 
> If we do want to support the new times, but avoid fall in the risk of
> having aoliva as a president and FSF will not change at all, can even
> been
> more dangerous.
> 
> On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 08:34, Paul Adams <paul.ad...@kde.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 19 Sep 2019, 08:17 Agustín Benito, <tosca...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > we should support them, not tell them what to do.
> > > 
> > 
> > One of RMSs best-known transgressions took place on _our_ stage at
> > Gran
> > Canaria. We did not exactly take much action at the time.
> > 
> > If this community really cares about Free Software and building an
> > inclusive community we absolutely _must_ speak up in public.
> > 
> > Augustin is right though. That message must be one of support for
> > the FSF
> > and helping them build a better future for FS, not pressurising
> > them over
> > things in the past.
> > 

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