> On Oct. 8, 2012, 9:52 a.m., Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > any application which expects the user to access files on disk but does not > > provide a clear representation of mounted / removable devices is broken. > > there's no point in degrading our own primary UI for such fixable > > brokenness. can you provide a (short :) list of any such broken > > applications which are high-profile / in common use? > > Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > ah, and i should also add that tooltips on items in popup windows as it > leads to a matryoshka doll effect that is most inelegant visually, so we try > to avoid such things unless there is a very good reason for them. > > Jonathan Marten wrote: > I think too that nested popups/tooltips look inelegant, but since it was > Jacopo's suggestion I though it may be at least worth trying it out... > > In my experience hardly any non-KDE applications are able to show or > control the mounting of removable devices - most of them stick to the > hopeless Gnome file selector, and not all of them can be made to work well > with KDE integration. Certainly in my daily use neither mozilla, > libreoffice/openoffice, gimp or googleearth identify removable devices. > Inkscape is the only major application that at least tries. They are indeed > broken (by design), but they are unlikely to be fixed before the heat death > of the universe. > > Jacopo De Simoi wrote: > My point was rather to stuff that information in some --already present-- > tooltip, such as the one appearing hovering over the capacity bar or the > device icon. > But yes this is indeed still visually unpleasant. Besides, I agree with > Aaron about creating some “Technical info” pane with all this information, > which could be triggered by context menu. > I do not want to clutter the ui any further. It's already pretty full. > > Cheers
Mozilla and L/O-Office both use the KDE provided file dialogs here, and that is because I am using an OS that does good integration (openSUSE in this case; though certainly not the only one). Google Earth also ought to if it is using Qt with the platform plugin support. GIMP, well, lost causes abound I suppose. but it is not nearly the horror show that it may seem to be. And yes, such applications are broken by design, and no, I won't lower Plasma to their standards. We've been through this same sort of situation before: when we bow to the lowest common denominator, nothing improves; when we keep our own standards, other projects rise to them. (Even if it takes time) - Aaron J. ----------------------------------------------------------- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106755/#review20057 ----------------------------------------------------------- On Oct. 12, 2012, 9:41 a.m., Jonathan Marten wrote: > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: > http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106755/ > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > (Updated Oct. 12, 2012, 9:41 a.m.) > > > Review request for KDE Base Apps and Plasma. > > > Description > ------- > > If a removable device is mounted using the Plasma device notifier, there is > no indication of what the Unix name of the device is or where it is mounted. > This information may be useful to the user for (a) accessing the mounted > device from non-KDE applications, or (b) troubleshooting mounting or > unmounting problems. > > The attached patch shows this information when the device is hovered over, > just above the "N actions for this device" text. Depending on whether or not > the device is mounted, there are three possibilities that can be shown here: > > /dev/XXX when not mounted > /dev/XXX mounted on /media/YYYY when mounted > /dev/XXX mounted if mounted but the mount point is not > available > > Please be gentle, this is my first QML patch :-) > > > This addresses bug 196939. > http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196939 > > > Diffs > ----- > > plasma/generic/applets/devicenotifier/package/contents/ui/DeviceItem.qml > 2a9b3f7 > > Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106755/diff/ > > > Testing > ------- > > Built kde-workspace with this change, observed operation and display of > device notifier with a selection of removable devices. > > > Screenshots > ----------- > > Device notifier with mounted device > http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106755/s/756/ > Tooltip with mounted device > http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/106755/s/769/ > > > Thanks, > > Jonathan Marten > >
