On 5 Jan 2015, at 12:40, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
All this back-and-forth about cli tools actually sounds weird to me. I
know that the beginners who start hacking on Krita would never use any
of them. Git on the command line is often already something they can
be rightly proud of when they master the beginnings. Heck, I myself
haven't used rbtools, even though the reviewboard site urges it
strongly. Let the real experts use cli tools, and they can handle a
bit of obscurity.
So I don't think obscure cli tools matter even one whit -- what
matters is having the nicest possible web tools that make life for
people as easy as possible. Ideally, people shouldn't need a kde
identity to submit something (patch, bug report, idea, screenshot,
plea for help), and reviewers should be able to drop into a private
conversation with only very little effort.
Agreed. We've been looking for more friendly, better-integrated, and
more usable tools for a long time. Not just for newcomers, but
especially for newcomers. When you're an old hand at development,
minimal setup of a useful tool is just not a huge burden.
I do disagree about needing a KDE identity to submit things like bug
reports; it is not useful to be unable to follow-up with someone, and if
they don't have an email address they're much less likely to remember to
check back. Not to mention link spam and all sorts of other nastiness.
Possibly allowing non-Identity account providers for non-developers is a
good middle ground (Google, Twitter, Facebook, GitHub).
--Jeff
