On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 8:46 AM Christophe Giboudeaux <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > On mercredi 17 juillet 2019 23:09:13 CEST Daniel Mensinger wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I am forwarding my original question about the meson trademark / > > license to kde-devel because I was told that more people with > > licensing experience will see this here. > > > > > > Meson's logo is (C) Jussi Pakkanen and used by the Meson project with > > > specific permission. It is not licensed under the same terms as the rest > > > of the project. > > > > > > If you are a third party and want to use the Meson logo, you must first > > > must obtain written permission from Jussi Pakkanen. > > Jussi Pakkanen has no problem with giving a special permission for > > KDevelop (similar to the VS Code meson plugin), but I first would > > like to know if including an icon with such a "license" is OK for > > KDevelop. > > > > This doesn't give any information on the logo license and what it allows/ > restricts/forbids. Answering your question is impossible without the license > text.
Well, that's not really true, in absence of anything it's "all rights reserved" and that are **unfree** licensing terms unsuitable for us. Plus, the website explicitly tells us it's all rights reserved. So, the answer certainly is: it is not OK to use because it is unfree. There are two huge caveat to this though: a) "fair-use" exceptions may apply and make the use OK, but I don't think that's the case and in any event the fair-use provisions AFAIU are not the same across the world b) a trademark may limit freeness despite copyright being free. as is the case for all free software projects (KDE included). so, all-rights-reserved probably is fine as well **but** only with a whole bunch of provisions (i.e. an informal license ;)) It may actually be best to consult distributions on the matter, since they ultimately will need to be allowed to distribute binaries. I know debian has a whole bunch of policies on the matter. >From the github ticket I get the impression what Jussi actually wants is trademark protection though and currently he's simply using copyright protection in lieu of trademark protection? e.g. KDE's logo is trademark protected, but the actual artwork is licensed LGPL. so you may copy and edit the svg to your hearts content, but you cannot use it to misrepresent endorsement from KDE for example. (grain of salt on all of the above of course) HS
