I think KDE developers shouldn`t use AI чт, 15 мая 2025 г. в 17:39, Benson Muite <benson_mu...@emailplus.org>:
> > Code contributions made using AI trained on unknown data is problematic. > KDE does also create a lot of data that could be used to improve KDE. It > may be good to see if AI or ML tools could use some of this data to improve > KDE in an ethical manner. > > On Thu, May 15, 2025, at 5:09 PM, Felix Ernst wrote: > > Late reply, but I also wanted to mention that I am 100% in support of > > any anit-AI messaging and policies we might choose. > > > > The wording as linked by Akseli in their first post seems like a good > > starting point in that regard: > > > >>Other projects have already done something similar, see for example: > https://discourse.gnome.org/t/loupe-no-longer-allows-generative-ai-contributions/27327 > > > > The only use of AI I support needs all its training data to be licenced > > in a way that allows use for the AI training e.g. CC0 or WTFPL licence. > > This way I don't see ethical issues because the copyright holders have > > then given some sort of consenst for this use. > > > > I wouldn't even mind if we went one step further and actively promoted > > e.g. Plasma as "free of AI". This does not need to be fully true, but > > this would be more of an activism and marketing angle I would like to > > see. There is a good chance though that this would not be a good use of > > our time but it would align with KDE Eco IMO. (I know that there are > > also great uses of AI, but public messaging needs to be clear and easy > > to understand, and there is still enough pro-AI marketing out there to > > the point that taking the opposite stance seems sensible to me.) > > > > Have a nice week! > > Felix > > > > > Date: Tue, 13 May 2025 09:22:22 +0930 > > > From: Justin Zobel <jus...@1707.io> > > > > > > I am 100% for this. Most AI tools just scrape (read: steal) code > > from > > > whatever source they can, with no attribution or consideration for > > legal > > > rights/copyright. > > > > > > Accepting any AI generated code is a legal risk unless the source of > > the > > > code can be verified. > > > > > > I would wager 99.999% of people using AI tools wouldn't know what > > the > > > source of the code is, or how it is licensed. > > > > > > On 12/05/2025 22:23, Akseli wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > There's been a lot of "AI" slop spam to various KDE projects, bug > > reports, forums, etc.. > > > > > > > > We should take a more public stance on disallowing all this slop. > > Lengthy gitlab issues that are just full of nonsense generated by a bot > > just take time out of everyones schedules, trying to decipher if its > > serious or not. > > > > > > > > Other projects have already done something similar, see for > > example: > https://discourse.gnome.org/t/loupe-no-longer-allows-generative-ai-contributions/27327 > > > > > > > > I don't care if someone uses those tools in their personal > > projects, but bringing this slop in to our shared space just frustrates > > people and eats resources to go through. > > > > > > > > Can we have somekind of official "please don't AI slop in our > > places" sign somewhere? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > - Akseli > -- Wodsfort
