(Ah! Finally found it... didn't end up in the right folder...) Le samedi 16 juin 2007, Jakob Petsovits a écrit : > On Saturday, 16. June 2007, Kevin Ottens wrote: > > Ok, small modifications I propose over your version: > > dvd-unmount -> media-optical-video-dvd > > I agree that a generic video icon would be preferable, but i case we get > one we should not have "video" as part of the DVD icon's name. > Use case: all DVD/HD-DVD/Bluray discs containing regular data only.
My point being it doesn't matter to the user. :-) > Following this approach, we would always have to display the > media-optical-video icon also if a generic DVD icon exists, but I think > that makes sense. A specific DVD video icon (which would be optional, of > course) would then combine the characteristics of the DVD and > media-optical-video icons, and would consequently be named > media-optical-video-dvd. Yup. > > ipod-unmount -> multimedia-player-ipod > > memory-stick-unmount -> media-flash-memory-stick > > Agreed. > > > usbpendrive-unmount -> drive-removable-media-usb-pendrive > > Maybe not. I mean, this is hard - a USB pendrive can arguably be classified > as "flash drive" (also, the Wikipedia article is called "USB flash drive") > but of course, it's a removable drive like an external hard disk. Yep, and what the user focuses on is the "drive" part... it IS a drive actually, not a medium you insert in a drive like a memory stick, a compact flash, etc. > Our friends at GNOME tend to favor media-flash-usb-*, as can be seen at > http://svn.gnome.org/viewcvs/gnome-icon-theme-extras/trunk/Gadgetango/scala >ble/devices/ If we are to go the drive-removable-media way, we need to talk > this over with the GNOME artists, including dobey. I'd really prefer if we go with the drive-removable-media way... (Now would require updating http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Oxygen/namingSpec/devices) It also makes sense because of the fallback system: drive-removable-media-usb-pendrive drive-removable-media-usb drive-removable-media That is: no pendrive icon available, fallbacks to the usb drive icon, which fallbacks to the generic removable drive icon, etc. Since, I think the user sees is pendrive as a drive it makes more sense IMO. The fact it contains flash memory is an implementation detail, it could perfectly contain something else. > > And that means we lack proper fallback versions for multimedia-player, > > media-flash and media-optical-video. > > > > 1) multimedia-player > > I think we should really have something neutral for this one, unlike the > > ipod one we have currently... So that means 'yet another icon' sorry > > guys. > > > > 2) media-flash > > We have no fallback for this one, but I'm not sure if it's really needed, > > the icons we have cover all the possible cases currently... So for now > > I'd live without the fallback here. But putting a branded memory stick as > > fallback looks wrong to me. > > For convenience, I'll attach the multimedia-player and media-flash icons > from Tango and GNOME as examples how it *could* be done. Although I > specifically dislike Tango's original media-flash. > > Nevertheless, we should really have a fallback media-flash icon. If nothing > else, let's just remove the branding from one of the existing icons and let > it be the fallback. Also, it's specified in the spec, and I'd really prefer > having all of the icons mentioned there. Ok. > [...] > Given that there's David volunteering for the icons themselves, and Kévin > for adapting the code, the only thing that's left is: > > - Final approval of the updated proposal by Kévin and David, and Apart from the pendrive, I'm fine with the current proposal there: http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Oxygen/namingSpec/devices Getting it lighter on the (dvd|bluray|hddvd) is indeed the way to go IMO. > - Knowing when to start. > > Great responses so far, thanks for your involvement! Thanks for working on it in the first place! -- Kévin 'ervin' Ottens, http://ervin.ipsquad.net "Ni le maître sans disciple, Ni le disciple sans maître, Ne font reculer l'ignorance."
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