Dear Kea user's list, (I'm here on the Code of Conduct Working Group capacity and I am not directly involved in the Kea development or the mailing list. You might also know me from my other Open Source work and Debian engagement.)
ISC staff will not engage in this discussion as the result of these kind of discussions never end well and they never end up with positive outcome. I suggest that everyone rather spend time in a lively healthy and kind discussion about Kea. Have a great weekend, Ondrej -- Ondřej Surý (He/Him) ond...@isc.org My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your normal working hours. > On 25. 4. 2025, at 14:47, Chuck Zmudzinski via Kea-users > <kea-users@lists.isc.org> wrote: > > On 4/24/2025 1:28 PM, Victoria Risk wrote: >> >> ... Doug is also right, that a community mailing list is for open community >> support and building up the body of public knowledge about the software. It >> won’t scale if others start emailing configurations to people’s private >> mailboxes and it is counter to the point of the open list. > > Hi Victoria, > > I don't agree with what you said here. So we have a disagreement. The ISC > Code of Conduct reads, in part: > > This code applies equally to the core development team, > open source contributors and those seeking help and guidance. > > ... > > When we disagree, try to understand why. Disagreements, both social and > technical, happen all the time and KEA is no exception. It is important > that we resolve disagreements and differing views constructively. Remember > that we're different. The strength of KEA comes from its varied community, > people from a wide range of backgrounds. Different people have different > perspectives on issues. Being unable to understand why someone holds a > viewpoint doesn't mean that they're wrong. Don't forget that it is human to > err and blaming each other doesn't get us anywhere. Instead, focus on helping > to resolve issues and learning from mistakes. > > ---- End of quote from Code of Conduct ------ > > Given the fact that we have a disagreement and we are both currently active > on an ISC public mailing list, would you agree that we are both bound with > equal force to try to understand each other and resolve our disagreements and > differing views constructively? If we can't yet agree on what public support > means, can we at least agree to try to understand each other and come to an > agreement about how the Code of Conduct governs our interactions with each > other on this ISC mailing list? > > At the very least, I think the Code of Conduct requires me to approach you in > this manner with a question like this. That is all I can do, though, until > you provide me with a response. And that raises another question, a question > that might make you uncomfortable but I must ask it: Do you consider that the > Code of Conduct imposes an obligation on you to answer my questions in > public, on this list? That is, if you do not answer my questions, would you > admit that you would be guilty of not engaging with me in the process of > trying to understand each other and resolve our disagreements and differing > views constructively and thus in direct violation of the Code of Conduct? > > Kind regards, > > Chuck Zmudzinski > -- > ISC funds the development of this software with paid support subscriptions. > Contact us at https://www.isc.org/contact/ for more information. > > To unsubscribe visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/kea-users. > > Kea-users mailing list > Kea-users@lists.isc.org > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/kea-users -- ISC funds the development of this software with paid support subscriptions. Contact us at https://www.isc.org/contact/ for more information. To unsubscribe visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/kea-users. Kea-users mailing list Kea-users@lists.isc.org https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/kea-users
