I agree on Calculator revert, Bitmap revert, keeping the new GBR icon (looks really nice).
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 7:47 AM, Kristoffer Ödmark < kristofferodmar...@gmail.com> wrote: > Practially I would read this as: > > Go back to the single calculator icon, instead of the +-= boxes. > Revert the camera icon to the "a" character, cleanup if wanted but dont > change concept fundamentally. > > Otherwise I went throught the old icons in my current build and checked > them against the latest email. They are pretty similar, but much more > polished and coherent, so I think that qualifies as being inside scope. > > I like the gerber icon change, but that one, dont know if it is outside > scope or not. > > Wayne did i interpret correctly? > > -Kristoffer > > > On 01/10/2018 03:58 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > >> I see scope creep happening here. I thought the original goal was to >> make some minor tweaks to our existing icons not wholesale replacement >> of the them. I don't like the camera either. I'm not a big fan of the >> calculator icon. Both of these icons looks completely out of place with >> our other icons. Please keep the scope of these changes in check. If >> we want to discuss an entirely new icon theme for v6, that's fine at the >> appropriate time but not for v5. >> >> On 1/10/2018 9:42 AM, Jeff Young wrote: >> >>> Splendid! >>> >>> Although I agree with Kristoffer that the new bitmap2component icon >>> isn’t much help. Import/Export is the one area where we’ve kept the >>> arrows (which I think is fine). Given that, the pixelated “a” with an >>> import arrow would be perfect. >>> >>> FWIW, this is one area where I disagree with Nick. I did user interface >>> design and software architecture for Adobe for 25 years and in my >>> professional opinion, these icons are a HUGE improvement. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Jeff >>> >>> >>> On 10 Jan 2018, at 14:28, Oliver Walters >>>> <oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Also, would it be too much to ask for getting the arrows, the >>>> diskette and the folder in the repo with the patch, basically if >>>> someone wants to create future icons. They could use the same >>>> arrows for any kind of export, import, save, inspect or view. >>>> >>>> >>>> I have created a set of "common icons" for exactly this purpose :) >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 1:27 AM, Kristoffer Ödmark >>>> <kristofferodmar...@gmail.com <mailto:kristofferodmar...@gmail.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Wow, really nice! Although, the icon for the bitmap2component >>>> basically looks like a screenshot symbol to me, or something >>>> related to a webcam. >>>> >>>> The old one isnt as polished, but I think it fits better. >>>> >>>> Also, would it be too much to ask for getting the arrows, the >>>> diskette and the folder in the repo with the patch, basically if >>>> someone wants to create future icons. They could use the same >>>> arrows for any kind of export, import, save, inspect or view. >>>> >>>> Basically to help get a icon theme thing going ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Kristoffer >>>> >>>> >>>> On 01/10/2018 03:13 PM, Oliver Walters wrote: >>>> >>>> Wayne, >>>> >>>> Here is the outcome of removing the save / load arrows and >>>> replacing with >>>> standard load / save icons. >>>> >>>> I have also further tweaked the main icons as per suggestions. >>>> >>>> Screenshots here: >>>> >>>> https://imgur.com/a/DzZhZ >>>> >>>> This is about as far as I want to go with this, please let me >>>> know if there >>>> are any outstanding issues that prevent me from submitting a >>>> patch. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Oliver >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 8:09 AM, Oliver Walters < >>>> oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Ok, that's good to hear. I will take another look at the >>>> Gerber icons and >>>> otherwise see if anyone can suggest some simple clean >>>> replacements for the >>>> arrows. If not, I'll push a patch. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 8:05 AM, Wayne Stambaugh >>>> <stambau...@gmail.com <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> One good thing about bitmaps is they are low risk >>>> (other than the >>>> complaining that will surely ensue) so we can merge >>>> them just about any >>>> time. I don't want to wait too long so our doc images >>>> can be updated to >>>> reflect the changes so if we cannot come up with >>>> better alternatives to >>>> replace the arrows, I'm OK with leaving them as is and >>>> pushing it off >>>> until v6. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Wayne >>>> >>>> On 1/9/2018 3:31 PM, Jeff Young wrote: >>>> >>>> I think the changes are absolutely good in >>>> general, and I’d very much >>>> like to see them get merged. Not that I have any >>>> control over that. ;) >>>> >>>> As for the arrows, I’d still really like to see >>>> them go away. The >>>> colour isn’t the problem, it’s the arrows >>>> themselves. ANY of the >>>> alternatives discussed (that don’t include arrows) >>>> would be better. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Jeff. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9 Jan 2018, at 20:13, Oliver Walters >>>> <oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com> >>>> <mailto:oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:oliver.henry.walt...@gmail.com>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> The coloured arrows were already in place, all >>>> I have done is made >>>> them all the same "style". In fact, previously >>>> concepts like "save" >>>> and "load" were conveyed both with a downward >>>> pointing arrow, and the >>>> arrow colour was the only point of difference. >>>> >>>> I thought I had made an improvement on what >>>> was already existing. My >>>> intent was not to necessarily do a sweeping >>>> redesign. >>>> >>>> If this is now an additional requirement I can >>>> make these not arrows, >>>> but I'd like some direction on what to do >>>> instead. It will be hard to >>>> fit a more detailed icon. >>>> >>>> Other than this, what are your thoughts >>>> overall? Is it worth my time >>>> pursuing this further? Are these changes good >>>> in general and can you >>>> see them being merged? >>>> >>>> On 10 Jan 2018 04:44, "Wayne Stambaugh" >>>> <stambau...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com> >>>> <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:stambau...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 1/9/2018 12:05 PM, Rene Pöschl wrote: >>>> > On 09/01/18 16:50, Wayne Stambaugh >>>> wrote: >>>> >> I'm with Jose on the arrows. If we >>>> are going to use them, >>>> please don't >>>> >> make the all different colors. I >>>> don't see how a blue left >>>> arrow versus >>>> >> a magenta right arrow conveys any >>>> meaning to the user. >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > I like the idea of coloring them >>>> differently. For me this will >>>> give an >>>> > additional way to distinguish the >>>> buttons. (Some of them have >>>> only the >>>> > direction of the arrow as a difference. >>>> Which is easily >>>> overlooked.) I >>>> > hope having different colors will make >>>> it easier for my brain to >>>> > remember which button does what. (I >>>> can't tell you how often i >>>> clicked >>>> > load symbol instead of update symbol >>>> while working on the >>>> reorganization >>>> > of the official lib.) >>>> >>>> What information does the different color >>>> arrow convey? If you are >>>> using different colors for contrast, that >>>> is one thing but just >>>> >>>> making >>>> >>>> them different colors for informational >>>> purposes doesn't make any >>>> sense >>>> to me. 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