Looking at this some more we already have Export Footprint... which does exactly the same thing as Save Footprint in a New Library…. So we can just ditch the later menu item.
And since those appear to be the only ways to create a new library in 4.0, I suggest we leave it that way until 6.0. Changes required: - Set Active Library… goes back to its 4.0 spot in the menus - New Footprint… needs to ask what library to create it in - Open Footprint… goes back to main File menu - Open Footprint from Current Board… moves to the Import sub-menu - Save Footprint in Open Library becomes Save Footprint - Save Footprint in a New Library… goes away File Set Active Library… ————————— New Footprint… Open Footprint… Save Footprint ————————— Import > Export > ————————— Print… > On 19 Feb 2018, at 14:16, Jeff Young <j...@rokeby.ie> wrote: > > I logged https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1750374 > <https://bugs.launchpad.net/kicad/+bug/1750374> for the (non-intentional) > removal of library filters. > > I imagine we’ll fix that in the Place Symbol browser. Since we don’t have a > Place Footprint browser yet (not to be confused with the current Footprint > Viewer we use in that context), removal of the active library concept no > longer sounds like a 5.0 thing. > > However, that’s no reason to leave it as Byzantine as it currently is. A > footprint belongs to a Library. It doesn’t matter what the active library > is. If you Save, it gets saved in its library. If you do a New, you need to > tell it what library to put it in. If you want to move it to a different > library we’ll add a Save As… (with a New… button in it similar to the > filesystem’s New Folder, which will allow us to dump Save in a New Library… > item). > > And we’ll need to put Set Active Library… back at the top and not treat it > like it is an Open Library… command. (We already messed that up with the > icons, but if we move New Library to the Save As… and Set Active Library… > dialogs then we can dispose of it on the toolbar and in the menus.) > > It’s a bit involved, but I think it will make a huge improvement. > > Thoughts? > > Cheers, > Jeff. > >> On 19 Feb 2018, at 13:21, Rene Pöschl <poesc...@gmail.com >> <mailto:poesc...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> On 19/02/18 13:16, Jeff Young wrote: >>> Hi Rene, >>> >>> Comments in-line: >>> >>>> On 19 Feb 2018, at 12:07, Rene Pöschl <poesc...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:poesc...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 19/02/18 12:14, Jeff Young wrote: >>>>> The Open / List All button is much faster on all libraries than it used >>>>> to be, and it’s a bit of a step-child to Search by Keyword and Select by >>>>> Browser anyway. >>>>> >>>>> So, I’m going to propose that we add a Library selection widget to New >>>>> Footprint..., Export Library... and Save As... and otherwise abandon the >>>>> active library concept. >>>> If you remove the active library concept from the "list all" stuff then >>>> you might want to add a way to filter (by library) after that dialog >>>> opened. >>>> The live filtering of the list all dialog is much more powerful then the >>>> filter by keyword button. (I personally never use the search by keyword >>>> feature as i in most cases know in what lib a footprint resides. Otherwise >>>> i can use search all without having an active lib.) >>> I have no issue against this in principal, but why not just use the Select >>> by Browser then? It’s not only got the by-library organisation, but it has >>> better filtering across libraries, and it shows nice images. >>> >>> Hmmm… I suppose the Browser is missing the Filter option…. >> >> For both the lib and footprint ;) (See next point) >>> >>>> One use-case where filtering by a specific lib might be helpful is library >>>> maintenance. The maintainer might have multiple different versions of the >>>> same lib in their system. (I have three copies of the footprint library >>>> added to my review project. Differentiated by a prefix to the library >>>> nickname. Results in >300 libs active in this project.) >>>> >>>> The save button should also have a way to remember in which lib the >>>> currently edited footprint resides and offer a one click save. (Fill out >>>> the target lib and footprint name such that by default the current >>>> footprint is overwritten.) >>>> The use-case for "i want to edit a footprint" is much more common then "i >>>> want to copy a footprint to a different lib/name". (At least for me.) >>> Indeed, that’s the root motivation behind getting rid of the active library >>> concept. >> >> To clarify: i use the select active lib dialog to filter the lib name (it >> has live filtering of library names which the footprint browser lacks) This >> allows me to reduce the set of libs from >300 to ~3 in most cases. (example >> entering JST results in a list of the 3 different versions of the >> Connector_JST lib i have on my system. For a normal user it would result in >> one lib.) >> >> After that, the list all dialog allows filtering for footprints (in the >> active lib) >> To continue the JST example: Entering 1x02 will lists all JST single row >> connectors with two pins. (If either filtering option is missing, this >> use-case becomes a lot harder.) >>>> A bonus would be if the selection of the target lib is made easy via some >>>> live filtering option. (The official lib already has >100 footprint libs) >>>> >>>> And please do not remove the lib browser! This is the only way of checking >>>> a large number of footprints in a fast way. This feature has already been >>>> removed for symbols. (By removing the symbol selector with the preview.) >>>> Don't make the same mistake on the footprint side. >>> Could you say more about this? Do you mean the Footprints view in the >>> Symbol Selector? (You can re-enable that through preferences.) Or >>> something else? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Jeff. >>> >> I fear this might be considered derailing the conversation. (It has >> currently nothing to do with footprints.) I just miss a way to browse >> symbols in a fast manner (use the arrow keys to see a preview of many >> symbols in a short amount of time) >> >> This has been previously provided by the select symbol dialog in the symbol >> editor. (To emulate this behavior in the tree view, one would need a way to >> filter the available symbol libs and a way to navigate symbols in that lib >> by using arrow keys. Plus fast symbol preview without further user action.) > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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