Ahh! a slightly different way of working I miss-understood what you were
saying...
You can move things about on and off the circuit area wherever you
want, but that's all. While designing I don't use erc or bom,
that all comes AFTER the design is done, when I delete all the leftover
parts and check the connectivity.
For odd bits of circuits I just keep them on separate sheets and cut
and paste them between sheets as needed. i.e. I have a couple of
standard 78xx type regulator circuits that I often use, so I drop them
into the main design as needed. (I have a .sch page called circuit
modules that I copy into each project for this purpose)
Note that this is not a hierarchical sheet, just a standalone sheet.
Andy
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:09:10 -0000
"h_manbeing" <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Thank you Andy for your reply.
>
> In my turn and if I understood well, your Kicad version of eeschema allows
> you to place components and perhaps uncomplete connections outside the main
> page without worrying about their wrong/missing annotation or the non
> connected pins... etc. Isn't what you mean?
>
> I run the last stable version of Kicad on Windows XP. Working on eeschema,
> whatever is found anywhere on the whole sheet, has the same importance as all
> other elements. So ERC check, netlist and BOM see the inside and the outside
> of the main page as one space in which everything should be done correctly in
> order to pass the check and generate good files. So to my knowledge, there is
> no area on the sheet that can be seen as equivalent to a trash can hence its
> contents are ignored by ERC and others.
>
> Kerim
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> --- In [email protected], Andy Eskelson <andyya...@...> wrote:
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> > If I understand correctly what you are asking for, it's already there.
> >
> > Just add a range of components that you are using once. If you wish you
> > can place them outside the drawing outline.
> >
> > Then right click on a component, select copy and place the copy
> > wherever you need it.
> >
> > I generally don't bother adding components outside the drawing, if I've
> > already used one I just copy it from where I placed the previous component.
> >
> > Andy
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> >
> > On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 09:29:21 -0000
> > "h_manbeing" <h_manbe...@...> wrote:
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> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I wish someday the Kicad developpers will have the time to divide a sheet
> > > (as of eeschema for example) as two independent spaces:
> > >
> > > (1) The area inside the page limits, in which all components and
> > > connections are treated as usual so it can be called "active" or "Real".
> > >
> > > (2) Outside the active space, in which all components and connections are
> > > just ignored as if they don't exist, so this area may be called
> > > "inactive" or "Unreal". But these do exist while saving/loading the sheet
> > > (very important)
> > >
> > > The difficult job might be at the boundaries and when something may
> > > belong to the two areas. This can be solved, I guess, by assuming the
> > > criteria:
> > > For any ambiguity that a boundary crosses an element, the element is
> > > supposed to be inactive (Unreal) as if it doesn't exist as a whole.
> > >
> > > But I am afraid that the benefits for being able to work on the same
> > > screen having the above two spaces could be appreciated by those who are
> > > creating new designs only. Because this gives a great saving of time
> > > while studying alternatives during the design. It allows to use just the
> > > 'Move' function most of the time instead of erasing/adding everytime a
> > > change would be needed.
> > >
> > > May I add... that like, for example, the flags V and I are for 'Visible'
> > > and 'Invisible', another pair of flags as R and U for 'Real' and 'Unreal'
> > > may need to be added for each element to implement this feature.
> > >
> > > Hope I will live long enough to work on this magic sheet :)
> > >
> > > Kerim
> > >
> > >
> > >
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