Hi Andy,

Your actual way is also my favorite one so I know what you mean.
That is why and as I mentioned at the beginning... what I have suggested was 
and will be always a wish... I guess :)

Kerim

--- In [email protected], Andy Eskelson <andyya...@...> wrote:
>
> Ahh! a slightly different way of working I miss-understood what you were
> saying...
> 
> 
> You can move things about on and off the circuit area wherever you
> want, but that's all. While designing I don't use  erc or bom,
> that all comes AFTER the design is done, when I delete all the leftover
> parts and check the connectivity. 
>   
> 
> 
> For odd bits of circuits I just keep them on separate sheets and cut
> and paste them between sheets as needed. i.e. I have a couple of
> standard 78xx type regulator circuits that I often use, so I drop them
> into the main design as needed. (I have a .sch page called circuit
> modules that I copy into each project for this purpose)
> 
> Note that this is not a hierarchical sheet, just a standalone sheet.
>     
> Andy
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:09:10 -0000
> "h_manbeing" <h_manbe...@...> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you Andy for your reply.
> > 
> > In my turn and if I understood well, your Kicad version of eeschema allows 
> > you to place components and perhaps uncomplete connections outside the main 
> > page without worrying about their wrong/missing annotation or the non 
> > connected pins... etc. Isn't what you mean?
> > 
> > I run the last stable version of Kicad on Windows XP. Working on eeschema, 
> > whatever is found anywhere on the whole sheet, has the same importance as 
> > all other elements. So ERC check, netlist and BOM see the inside and the 
> > outside of the main page as one space in which everything should be done 
> > correctly in order to pass the check and generate good files. So to my 
> > knowledge, there is no area on the sheet that can be seen as equivalent to 
> > a trash can hence its contents are ignored by ERC and others.
> > 
> > Kerim
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], Andy Eskelson <andyyahoo@> wrote:
> > >
> > > If I understand correctly what you are asking for, it's already there.
> > > 
> > > Just add a range of components that you are using once. If you wish you
> > > can place them outside the drawing outline.
> > > 
> > > Then right click on a component, select copy and place the  copy
> > > wherever you need it.
> > > 
> > > I generally don't bother adding components outside the drawing, if I've
> > > already used one I just copy it from where I placed the previous 
> > > component.
> > > 
> > > Andy
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 09:29:21 -0000
> > > "h_manbeing" <h_manbeing@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > 
> > > > I wish someday the Kicad developpers will have the time to divide a 
> > > > sheet (as of eeschema for example) as two independent spaces:
> > > > 
> > > > (1) The area inside the page limits, in which all components and 
> > > > connections are treated as usual so it can be called "active" or "Real".
> > > > 
> > > > (2) Outside the active space, in which all components and connections 
> > > > are just ignored as if they don't exist, so this area may be called 
> > > > "inactive" or "Unreal". But these do exist while saving/loading the 
> > > > sheet (very important)
> > > > 
> > > > The difficult job might be at the boundaries and when something may 
> > > > belong to the two areas. This can be solved, I guess, by assuming the 
> > > > criteria:
> > > > For any ambiguity that a boundary crosses an element, the element is 
> > > > supposed to be inactive (Unreal) as if it doesn't exist as a whole.
> > > > 
> > > > But I am afraid that the benefits for being able to work on the same 
> > > > screen having the above two spaces could be appreciated by those who 
> > > > are creating new designs only. Because this gives a great saving of 
> > > > time while studying alternatives during the design. It allows to use 
> > > > just the 'Move' function most of the time instead of erasing/adding 
> > > > everytime a change would be needed. 
> > > > 
> > > > May I add... that like, for example, the flags V and I are for 
> > > > 'Visible' and 'Invisible', another pair of flags as R and U for 'Real' 
> > > > and 'Unreal' may need to be added for each element to implement this 
> > > > feature.
> > > > 
> > > > Hope I will live long enough to work on this magic sheet :)
> > > > 
> > > > Kerim
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
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> > question.
> > Please post your bug reports here. They will be picked up by the creator of 
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> > Please visit http://www.kicadlib.org for details of how to contribute your 
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