Ambu cek deui seratanana dina eta pedang pajajaran, sigana mah eta seratan 
"Jalaka Pakawana" -:)


----- Original Message ----
From: richadiana kartakusuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 6:15:02 AM
Subject: Re: Keris Galuh - Majapait Re: [kisunda] Goong PAJAJARAN

Numawi kitu, tapi abdi ge aneh puguh aya wartos rehna "TANGGUH PAJAJARAN" teh 
kawentar teu kaelehkeun.. .tapi dugi ka ayeuna referensi na tacan mendak...

Kdah oge urang emur, masing saala rupina ti WETAN oge (abdi ge teu PRO 
samasakali, keuheul we nu aya), ari "kokolot utama" mah ti KULON (SUNDA), boleh 
jadi mereka yang kemudian yang menampilkan hanya tenggang terlampau jauh...maka 
prototipena rada sesah

Begitu pula yang disebut KERIS PAJAJARAN, apa benar itu dari Pajajaran? 
Karena berkali-kali saya meneliti di kawasan Cirebon (gerbang Galuh) kebetulan 
saya menginap di Kraton (kecil) Gebang..beliau (sang Pangeran) menyimpan 
senjata Pajajaran... berupa PEDANG..sangat indah bertuliskan prasasti aksara 
Sunda Kuno..sayang sekali pahatannya terlampau aus...sangat sulit dibaca saat 
itu (Specialisasi saya di Arkeologi EPIGRAFIS).

Lalu difoto berkali-kali. .ajaib... tidak ada gambar apapun 

AMBU 

SASTRANEGARA THARYANA <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: Ambu muhun sagala2 kedah 
ti wetan wae informasi teh
"POLITIS". Keris asliNA ti US di jaman Pajajaran aya
nami nu tos ka sohor ahli ngadamel pakarang KERIS ,
nyaeta EMPU SOMBRO sa acan EMPU GANDRING ngadamel
keris kuer maehan TUJUH TURUNAN katurunan nu ngaku
raja NU BENGAL ti WETAN da teu ngiringan tradisi SI
EMPU, da hayang ANGGEUS gancang. Ceuk si EMPU mangga
wae atuh candak ADEN da KERIS teh can RENGSE. NGAN
KADE bilih KAWALAT eta keris rek maehan nu BARARENGAL
nepi ka tujuh turunan, GEUNING KAJADIAN MARARAOT.

Kang Yana

--- richadiana kartakusuma
<richadianakartakusu [EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:

> teu gaduh nun, 
> ieu mah ceuk abdi reduksi dari yang pernah saya baca
> "keris teh saleresna mah pangaruh ti wetan". Da ari
> Sunda mah tumetep ngageugeuh KUJANG. Boh dina
> prasasti boh tina kasusastraan kuno..."keris" teh
> mucunghulna ti sumber2 tertulis anu jolna ti wetan
> wae. 
> 
> Keris lalu menjadi senjata sakti, ampuh dan tangguh
> teh kadieunakeun. ..duka tah saha nu ngawitanana?
> Ngan anu pang"KOLOT-KOLOTNA" pun "keris" buktos
> dianggo pakarang nya jaman Kadiri-Tumapel Ken Arok
> (Girisanatha) kanggo nubles Mpu Gandring (nu
> ngadamelna) > nuncleb beuteung Tunggul Ametung >
> nuncleb ka Ken Arok > nucleb ka Anusapati > nuncleb
> ka Tohjaya....teras dugi ka 7 turunan (sumpah Mpu
> Gandring)... peristiwa abad ka 12-13 
> 
> Kapungkur mah asa gaduh bukuna perkawis keris teh
> ngan "ngahiyang" tah duka kamana, ke mun penak
> diwartosan.
> 
> AMBU
> 
> 
> 
> Tirta widjaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: 
> Sampurasun Ambu, he...he....bab
> keris janten we lumpat kana jalak ngoceh salah
> sahiji wanda/bentuk keris kitu. Ambu pan keris teh
> pasti teu sagawayah ngadamelna, pasti aya harti
> jeung pamaksudanana. Kinten-kintena aya kitu
> palasapah ngeunaan keris tangguh Galuh sareng keris
> tangguh Pajajaran?
> 
> salam
> Jalak Pakwan
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: richadiana kartakusuma
> <richadianakartakusu [EMAIL PROTECTED] com>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:15:43 AM
> Subject: Re: Keris Galuh - Majapait Re: [kisunda]
> Goong PAJAJARAN
> 
> Haturan kaulanun "santana Semplakwaja" ngamandala
> deui!
> Cik atuh Kang, ku harianeun nya piraku tina Jalak
> "istana" (=Pakwan) janten Jalak "ngoceh" 
> 
> Perkawis KERIS? nya moal tiasa..da tatanan Mandala
> na benten kacida jsuh mela melu, kabina-bina,
> dibandingkeu oge moal tiasa nyambung..hese
> beurat...moal kaunggulan
> 
> AMBU
> 
> Tirta widjaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: Punten
> ieu mah bobodoan naros, naha nya henteu nyandingkeun
> we keris Galuh/Pajajaran jeung Majapait. Asa
> langkung babari milarina mun dua pusaka ieu. Tapi
> duka oge mun spesifik keris nu disuhunkeun, boa-boa
> sarua atawa leuwih hese nya.
> 
> salam
> Jalak Ngoceh
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: engkus ruswana <engkusruswana@ yahoo.com>
> To: Kisunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED] s .com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:47:12 PM
> Subject: [kisunda] Goong PAJAJARAN
> 
> Rampes, 
> Kamana wae Ambu, biasa unggal dinten ngulampreng
> aya
> kana 2-4 kalina, e...eh, sadinten be teu aya matak
> janten sono. Kumaha tah ambu artikel teh? sareng
> patarosan simkuring sual kapanjaluan aya kitu?...
> 
> Oh muhun deuih ambu, dinten saptu nu bakal datang
> ping
> 23 Februari, kuring sakulawargi bakal kadatangan
> tamu
> ti Bali, rencanana bade ngariung di Panjalu di
> rorompok pun biang. Urang Bali ieu cenah masih
> ngagem
> agama asli jeung gaduh kayakinan kalayan dirojong
> ku
> catetan silsilah nu jelas yen aranjeunna/urang Bali
> masih turunan ti Prabu Ciung Manarah(GALUH) . Eta
> rommbongan bade nyukcruk sual GOONG PAJAJARAN.
> Aranjeunna boga kayakinan yen Nusantara tiasa
> nanjeur
> deui mun Sunda-Jawa tiasa rukun deui sacara
> material &
> spiritual. Kelompok ti Bali ieu ngarancanakeun
> Goong
> Pajajaran & Goong Majapahit bade disandingkeun dina
> acara spiritual di Trowulan.
> Tah naha Ambu terang perkara ieu, oge ka sugri para
> wargi nu ngagaduhan katerangan perkara GOONG
> PAJAJARAN
> diantos pagunemannana. Naha bener aya Goong
> Pajajaran
> teh atanapi mun sakadar dongeng, kuring sorangan
> kakara ngareungeu warta perkara ieu.
> Mangga nun manawi aya nu terang.
> 
> Baktos
> 
> pun Engkus,
> 
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