Yang jelas transformasi budaya..yang berkembang sangat luas... lahhhh, panjang teuing nya panginten ngajenterekeunana. AMBU
Tirta widjaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ambu sim kuring mah keukeuh nu jadi cecekelan urang sunda ge keris, kunaon jadi pangaruh ti wetan sabab urang sunda na we mopohokeun keris. Pinterna urang wetan gencar negeskeun yen keris teh warisan Nusantara, ngan aslina keukeuh ti jawa nu disebarkeun ku Majapait nu ngawasa Nusantara......hebat pan! Padahal bungkeuleukanana ge jelas keris tangguh Galuh sarua kolotna jeung tangguh Majapait? Ensiklopedi Keris nerangkeun yen sanggeus tragedi Bubat tradisi keris di urang sunda melempem nepi ka pareum, "disinyalir" cenah eta dihaja (dilarang?) ku Majapait. Terus we urang sunda lumpat kana kujang nu tadina pakarang ngahuma ganti jadi simbol ngagantikeun keris. Tapi akibatna beda, sababaraha abad (7-8 abad?) kahareupna...tingal we urang sunda jeung urang wetan ayeuna. Mun keris bisa nyarita, caang lah sajarah sunda ti abad 12/13. salam Jalak Pakwan ----- Original Message ---- From: richadiana kartakusuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 3:12:37 AM Subject: Re: Keris Galuh - Majapait Re: [kisunda] Goong PAJAJARAN teu gaduh nun, ieu mah ceuk abdi reduksi dari yang pernah saya baca "keris teh saleresna mah pangaruh ti wetan". Da ari Sunda mah tumetep ngageugeuh KUJANG. Boh dina prasasti boh tina kasusastraan kuno..."keris" teh mucunghulna ti sumber2 tertulis anu jolna ti wetan wae. Keris lalu menjadi senjata sakti, ampuh dan tangguh teh kadieunakeun. ..duka tah saha nu ngawitanana? Ngan anu pang"KOLOT-KOLOTNA" pun "keris" buktos dianggo pakarang nya jaman Kadiri-Tumapel Ken Arok (Girisanatha) kanggo nubles Mpu Gandring (nu ngadamelna) > nuncleb beuteung Tunggul Ametung > nuncleb ka Ken Arok > nucleb ka Anusapati > nuncleb ka Tohjaya....teras dugi ka 7 turunan (sumpah Mpu Gandring)... peristiwa abad ka 12-13 Kapungkur mah asa gaduh bukuna perkawis keris teh ngan "ngahiyang" tah duka kamana, ke mun penak diwartosan. AMBU Tirta widjaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: Sampurasun Ambu, he...he....bab keris janten we lumpat kana jalak ngoceh salah sahiji wanda/bentuk keris kitu. Ambu pan keris teh pasti teu sagawayah ngadamelna, pasti aya harti jeung pamaksudanana. Kinten-kintena aya kitu palasapah ngeunaan keris tangguh Galuh sareng keris tangguh Pajajaran? salam Jalak Pakwan ----- Original Message ---- From: richadiana kartakusuma <richadianakartakusu [EMAIL PROTECTED] com> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 2:15:43 AM Subject: Re: Keris Galuh - Majapait Re: [kisunda] Goong PAJAJARAN Haturan kaulanun "santana Semplakwaja" ngamandala deui! Cik atuh Kang, ku harianeun nya piraku tina Jalak "istana" (=Pakwan) janten Jalak "ngoceh" Perkawis KERIS? nya moal tiasa..da tatanan Mandala na benten kacida jsuh mela melu, kabina-bina, dibandingkeu oge moal tiasa nyambung..hese beurat...moal kaunggulan AMBU Tirta widjaja <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote: Punten ieu mah bobodoan naros, naha nya henteu nyandingkeun we keris Galuh/Pajajaran jeung Majapait. Asa langkung babari milarina mun dua pusaka ieu. Tapi duka oge mun spesifik keris nu disuhunkeun, boa-boa sarua atawa leuwih hese nya. salam Jalak Ngoceh ----- Original Message ---- From: engkus ruswana <engkusruswana@ yahoo.com> To: Kisunda <[EMAIL PROTECTED] s .com> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:47:12 PM Subject: [kisunda] Goong PAJAJARAN Rampes, Kamana wae Ambu, biasa unggal dinten ngulampreng aya kana 2-4 kalina, e...eh, sadinten be teu aya matak janten sono. Kumaha tah ambu artikel teh? sareng patarosan simkuring sual kapanjaluan aya kitu?... Oh muhun deuih ambu, dinten saptu nu bakal datang ping 23 Februari, kuring sakulawargi bakal kadatangan tamu ti Bali, rencanana bade ngariung di Panjalu di rorompok pun biang. Urang Bali ieu cenah masih ngagem agama asli jeung gaduh kayakinan kalayan dirojong ku catetan silsilah nu jelas yen aranjeunna/urang Bali masih turunan ti Prabu Ciung Manarah(GALUH) . Eta rommbongan bade nyukcruk sual GOONG PAJAJARAN. 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