abdi AWEWE (FEMALE), gamparan!
bet "akang deui...akang deui" GUSTIIIIIIIIIIIII anu AGUNG
Ambu teh apan "awewe" juag

Tabe pun
Ambu  Wirumananggay 



----- Original Message ----
From: Wirabudiman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, July 7, 2008 9:17:14 AM
Subject: Re: [kisunda] GELAR BANGSAWAN =FEODAL > HATURAN INGKANG WIRA anu 
BUDIMAN


iih kang peryog pisan, kanggo miara nilai-nilai 
sunda anu disimpen dina kecap basa.
perkawis kang Firman Raharja, etamah sakantenan 
simkuring nganuhunkeun parantos ngiringan mairan kana ieu bahasan di milis 
urangsunda.
 
Sakantenan bade tumaros, 
Dupi hartosna : "Rakryan - 
Rakarayan = Rakai" > tina ra - ka- raya - an ; upami dina naskah2 Sunda buhun 
rakryan teh disebat 
"Rakean"
hartosna naon?
 
sakitu heula kang,
hatur nuhun.
pun AW
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: richadiana kartakusuma 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com 
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [kisunda] GELAR BANGSAWAN  =FEODAL > HATURAN INGKANG WIRA anu 
BUDIMAN

Punten ieu teu ngartos, bet aya Kang Firman Rahardja?
nya upami  peryogi perkawis info..nu kararieu...mangga nyarios wae...satungtung 
abdi  gaduh mah...mangga.

Tabe pun
Ambu Wirumananggay





-----  Original Message ----
From: Wirabudiman <wirabudiman- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ac.id>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
Sent:  Monday, July 7, 2008 8:32:01 AM
Subject: Re: [kisunda] GELAR BANGSAWAN  =FEODAL > HATURAN INGKANG WRA anu 
BUDIMAN


 
Katampi...sun. .., disuhun di dung-dung eta  seratan Ambu, kang Firman Raharja, 
katampi pisan.
Serata dina milis ieu, sapalihna kusimkuring di  simpen dina Blog : 
http://sukapura. wordpress. com
janten upami aya tambihan/pendapat katerangan  ngenaan sebatan Raden, urang di 
kempelkeun, kantenan upami aya referensinamah  langkusng sae.
mangga kanu sanesna,...
Hatur nuhun, rampes...
baktos,
AW
 
-----  Original Message ----- 
From: richadiana kartakusuma 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com 
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [kisunda] GELAR BANGSAWAN =FEODAL > HATURAN INGKANG WRA anu  
BUDIMAN

Ieu mah mung kaleresan nu ku abdi  katampi...tapi duka kaango henteu na mah teu 
langkung, nyanggakeun wae kana  pangersa
 
sayaktosna mah Wetan sareng Kulon dina nganggo  elar ka-Menak-an teu benten, 
mung saukur ku beda nyebat wae. Upamina di  prasasti2 nu ti Wetan sadayana 
bangsawan utamina Mataram Kuno (nu diluluguan  ku karuhun Sanjaya "Senna" ti 
Galuh= Ciamis) sok dipayunan ku gelarv  "Rakryan - Rakarayan = Rakai" > tina ra 
- ka- raya - an ; upami dina naskah2 Sunda buhun rakryan teh  disebat "Rakean"

Salah sawios buktos (conto): 
1) Sanjaya dina prasasti ti  Mataram disebat Rakai Mataram Sang Ratu            
                       Sanjaya; Sanjaya dina Sunda Buhun disebat  Rakean Jambri 
= Ra hiyang Sanjaya 

2) Ciung Wanara alias Manarah = Rakean Manarah (di  Sunda buhun) = Rakai Manara 
    dina prasasti ti  wetan...dst.
3) Gelar "Rahadyan" mah ka-ayeunakeun > sami keneh  hartosna mung nyaeta        
          seueur dianggo ku Urang Wetan>  teras ka kulonkeun saatos Abad ka -17 
Masehi          tea (Sultan Agung). Tapi di salah sawios we2ngkon Sunda  (hilap 
deui mung                  disebatkeun teh ku Kang Yunan Buana ) > rehna di  
we2ngkon anjeuna "menak2"      teh disebatna "Tohaan" .  Gelar ieu teh di Sunda 
mah dilarapkeun kangge raja              diantawisna Tohaan di Sunda  
(Tarusbawa)
4) aya oge anu disebat "daleum - dalem"  sami sareng di  wetan hartosna 
kulakadang      istana keneh mung  istilahna "jero"

Mung nguningkeun wae....hapunten bilih  lpat

Tabe pun ti abdi nu bodo
Ambu  Wirumananggay
 

-----  Original Message ----
From: Wirabudiman <wirabudiman- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ac.id>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
Cc:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com
Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2008 4:29:51  PM
Subject: [kisunda] Re: [Urang Sunda] re: Raden-Juragan Pangaruh  PEODAL


 
 
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From: firman raharja
Date: 7/6/2008  2:02:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ups.com
Subject: Re: [Urang  Sunda] re: Raden-Juragan Pangaruh PEODAL
 

Punten mairan bari nyalenggor sakedik

Asana mah raden  (=rahadian) the geus dipake Ku menak it wetan it baheula keneh
Dina  carita (sajarah) ngeunaan Dewa Niskala, disebutkeun yen manehna  the
Nulungan "Raden Baribin" anu kabur ka galuh pedah karajaanna  (majapahit?) di 
buburak
Jadi can aya hubungan jeung  panjajah

Saterusna nurutkeun kuring mah raden (di sunda) 
Mangrupakeun pangaruh /budaya it wetan
Anu mahabu di sunda  sanggeus sunda kapangaruhan Ku mataram
Nyaeta sumedang saeunggeus  jaman suriadiwangsa (Rangga Gempol)

Panginten
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Sae-sae, nambihan sajarahna rada ka palih luhur....nuhun. .nuhun  kana 
panambihna. 
 
 
  

    


      

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