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Mintaredja" <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2010 07:12:31 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [kisunda] Re: asal usul kecap sunda RE: [Urang Sunda] Sundaland kecap Sunda mimiti dibewarakeun ku batur dina abad ka dua, ku Ptolomaeus, filusuf Yunani. hn*R3M On 11/23/10, mh <[email protected]> wrote: > di pakistan aya ngaran tempat: sunda; toong didieu: > > === > Sunda Map - Satellite Images of Sunda > original name: Sunda > geographical location: Bahawalnagar, Punjab, Pakistan, Asia > geographical coordinates: 29° 45' 0" North, 73° 18' 0" East > url: http://www.maplandia.com/pakistan/punjab/bahawalnagar/sunda/ > === > > > 2010/11/23 mh <[email protected]> > >> Origin: Sanskrit >> Meaning: Melting; very tender >> >> Origin: Indian >> Meaning: Melting; very tender >> >> 2010/11/23 Deni Indra Kelana <[email protected]> >> >> >>> >>> Numutkeun Mbah Google, hartosna nami Sunda teh "Melting, very tender", >>> dina pibasaeun urang mah kirang langkung "leyur, lembut pisan". Sanes >>> lembut >>> leutik, nanging lembut halus budi parangina panginten. >>> >>> tah sumberna: >>> http://babynamesworld.parentsconnect.com/meaning_of_Sunda.html >>> >>> nuhun, >>> >>> Deni >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* mh <[email protected]> >>> *To:* [email protected]; Ki Sunda <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:47:08 >>> *Subject:* [kisunda] Re: asal usul kecap sunda RE: [Urang Sunda] >>> Sundaland >>> >>> >>> >>> di india, jigana wae kecap /sunda/ teh dipake pikeun ngaran jalma, nu >>> cukup populer >>> meureun mun di urang mah jiga ngaran /asep/, /agus/, jeung sabangsana. >>> teuing naon hartina /sunda/ ceuk bahasa india, ke urang tanyakeun ka >>> balad >>> india. >>> >>> tah ieu berendelan ngaran nu make kecap /sunda/: >>> >>> Anurag Sunda >>> Daya Sunda Sunda >>> Dr. Piyush Sunda >>> Dr. Surender Sunda >>> Dr. Vivek Sunda >>> Gunjan Sunda >>> J. Rosario Arul Sunda Sundar >>> Jitu Sunda >>> Lokesh Sunda >>> Major Shanmuga Sunda Sunder >>> Munesh Sunda >>> Neeraj Sunda >>> Paras Sunda >>> Prakash Sunda >>> Praveen Sunda >>> Rajendra Sunda >>> Roma Sunda >>> Sarvesh Sunda >>> Siddharth Sunda >>> Sitaram Sunda >>> Sunda Choudhary >>> Sunda Kakka >>> Sunda Kannan >>> Sunda Kr >>> Sunda Ram >>> Sunda Ram Choudhary >>> Sunda Sunda >>> Sundaresan Sunda >>> Surendra Sunda >>> Vijay Sunda >>> Vijendra Sunda >>> Vinita Sunda >>> Yanamanagundala Shyam Sunda >>> >>> >>> 2010/11/22 mj <[email protected]> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Pake jurus cap cenah, jadi make believe it or not we. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> salah sapuluhna, harti Sunda (aslina ‘cunda’ atawa sarupaning kitu) teh >>>> bodas. Sebut we ti salah salima basa india. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Baheula, duka jaman iraha, aya urang India naek parahu ka pulo >>>> javadvipa. >>>> Manehna nempo di jawa kulon aya gunung nu puncakna bodas (sunda). Bodas >>>> ieu >>>> duka salju duka huis, teu kabejakeun. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Tah cenah si gunung eta teh cenah nu ayeuna kawahna disebut danau >>>> bandung >>>> purba atawa kota bandung ayeuna. Atawa mun danau purba ti baheulana >>>> memang >>>> danau, nya gunung sunda teh nu ayeuna anakna tangkuban parahu, jeung >>>> sabudeureunana. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Versi ieu diaku henteuna kumaha lobana nu klaim atawa satuju. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cara asal usul ngaran jawa. Cenah baheula urang mesir (duka anak buah >>>> firaun atawa murid nabi) datang ka ieu pulo bari mawa jeung melak >>>> jawawut, >>>> sigana sarupaning pare atawa hanjeli.ti kecap Jawawut, jadi jawa. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Di basa india duka nu mana, hurup w sering ditulis v, java, cara devi >>>> dibaca dewi. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mangga kanu apal tiasa ngiring ngeuyeuban jejer ieu. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> mj >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> *On >>>> Behalf Of *tantan hermansah >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 20, 2010 2:42 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Urang Sunda] Sundaland >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ari sabab bet diaranan SUNDA jang pulo2 eta kunaon nya? >>>> Sabab bisa jadi Sunda Land mah teu representasi Urang Sunda sok sanajan >>>> ngaranna sami. >>>> >>>> >>>> Punten >>>> >>>> Salam >>>> Tantan >>>> >>>> 2010/11/16 mj <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ulah waka atoh soal ngaran kitu. Sabab sabagian sajarah ditulis bari >>>> salah. Cara columbus rek neangan india, nyasar ka benua amerika nu >>>> harita >>>> can aya urang eropa barat nu ka dinya (beh dieu, cenah viking, eropa >>>> kaler >>>> kungsi nepi ka kanada). Kusabab niatna rek neangan india, atuh pas >>>> manggih >>>> manusa di benua amerika teh ku columbus disarebut indian. Haha. padahal >>>> maranehna boga ngaran suku masing-masing, cara inca, aztec, jsb. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sundaland teh ngan ukur ngaran pikeun wewengkon nu cenah baheulana pisan >>>> benua yang hilang tea. Lain hartina kakawasaan karajaan sunda baheula >>>> lega >>>> nepi ka mana-mana. Sarua jeung istilah sunda besar sunda kecil, eta >>>> dijieun >>>> ku bule nu nyieun peta wewengkon nu ayeuna indonesia. Lain ku raja >>>> pajajaran >>>> atawa galuh. Dina buku Illuminations, nu eusina perkara naskah indonesia >>>> kuno, pedalan yayasan lontar, aya peta jieunan urang walanda nu nulis >>>> sunda >>>> island pikeun wewengkon nu ku batur disebut nusantara. Kecap nusantara >>>> ti >>>> iraha ayana nya. Boa jaman majapahit, sumpah palapa gajah mada tea. >>>> Bisa >>>> jadi diganti istilah nusantara alatan dominasi jawa di indonesia. Cara >>>> pikeun ngahijikeun indonesia, peran walanda jeung karajaan islam >>>> dileutikan, >>>> tapi ngacu ka jaman majapahit tea. padahal beh dieu sultan HBX basa aya >>>> acara aneh nu judulna ‘rekonsiliasi sunda-jawa’ di hotel preanger (ti >>>> sunda >>>> diwakilan ku kang Ajip Rosidi, bari AR bingung da rumasa lain raja sunda >>>> atawa gegeden sunda, ngan ukur preman cenah), netelakeun yen indonesia >>>> ayeuna nu lahir taun 1945. lain ti jaman majapahit atawa alatan sumpah >>>> palapa gajah mada. Sumpah palapa ngan berlaku jaman majapahit, nu ayeuna >>>> berlaku mah soempah pemoeda, bari jeung sumpah ka tilu sok >>>> disalahartikeun, >>>> lain berbahasa satu bahasa indonesia, tapi menjunjung bahasa persatuan, >>>> bahasa indonesia. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Balik duei ka sundaland >>>> >>>> Jadi sunda island teh sarua jeung istilah nusantara ayeuna. Kapulauan nu >>>> ayeuna indonesia tea. Nya dibagi ka sunda besar pikeun pulo2 gede (jawa, >>>> sumatra, borneo), jeung sunda kecil pikeun pulo2 leutik (bali, lombok, >>>> timor, flores, jsb). Ngan ku batur, teuing mohamad yamin teuing saha, >>>> ngaran >>>> sunda eta diganti da seler manehna teu kasebut atawa bisa jadi embung >>>> ngaran >>>> sunda terkenal (padahal geus terkenal di kalangan peluat bule ti >>>> baheula). >>>> Bisa jadi pikeun ngaleutikan peran kolonialisasi walanda, pedah ngaran2 >>>> eta >>>> jijieunan walanda. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Memang urang perlu jeung butuh kareueus sangkan micinta, tapi teu kudu >>>> ku >>>> soal ngaran sundalah atawa sundabesar sunda kecil eta. Da sunda baris >>>> tetep >>>> aya, mun urang sundana aya. Sanajan ketak igel ugetna teu pati mere >>>> peran di >>>> panggung nasional jeung internasional. Jaman keur amburadul kieu, urang >>>> sunda rada hese milu. Tapi meureun, mun noong sajarah, ke mun nagara >>>> riweuhna beuki parah, bisa jadi muncul US seksi riweuh, cara Djuanda nu >>>> diangkat jadi perdana menteri ku BK basa daerah loba nu berontak alatan >>>> sukarno jakartasentris teuing. >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> *On >>>> Behalf Of *ngolebat S >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 14, 2010 7:01 PM >>>> *To:* UrangSunda >>>> *Subject:* [Urang Sunda] Sundaland >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sundaland atawa anu disebut ku para ahli istilahna paparan sunda, (ieu >>>> pernah naluntik buku di hotel salak Bogor). >>>> Naon ari sundaland teh, cenahmah sundaland teh lega, >>>> lain ngan ukur tepi ka urang baduy, >>>> mimiti anu disebut pulo jawa ayena terus ka sumarta, >>>> terus deui ka malaya teupi ka laut cina. >>>> beu.. beu.. geuning leuga.. >>>> jadi ka pikiran kunu bodo alewoh, lamun bener kitu, meureun kiwari kudu >>>> aya nu disebut pulo sunda.. >>>> da buktina selat Bali, aya pulo Bali, selat Malaka aya pulo Malaka, >>>> kunaon ari selat Sunda euweuh pulo Sunda. >>>> Tah kukituna, ka para ahli bumi, ahli geogafi, ahli sejarah kamana ari >>>> pulo Sunda leungitna..? naha milu tileum deui.. >>>> >>>> Hapunteun hatur nuhun.. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The message was checked by Fortiget >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> tantan hermansah | SM 1270 I 0818 800 528 I Untuk Kebebasan dan >>>> Kebahagiaan I Bogor >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The message was checked by Fortiget >>>> >>>> >>> > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! 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