Grabe. mainstream na diay mi ato :D If there were more of me at that time, daghan pa unta free lab :D
And wala na unta need for a small number of people to file a complaint election irregularites against XCEL. :D Unsa diay meaning sa "mainstream", majority? or the goody-goody population that follows the standards upheld by the university? Yes, probably mainstream tingali mi.. since we were the loudest and rowfdest bunch :D It would appear na mainstream mi when in truth, ang mga lalaki from XUHS(laki, ha dili mga bayot) kay gatambay man pirme sa guwas sa mga labs with guys from other highschool. So assorted ang mga tao, one big barangay with different personalities.. There were less barriers.. of course years later, nigamay ra pud ang mga tambay and ang CS daw kay murag nahimong commerce or art and sciences na daghan na gapa choi-choi.. back then ang XUCS is neither CIT nor Engineering.. Probably matawag na mainstream ang kato na barangay, kay kada naay chicks molabay mo saba man ang mga tao... and we were definitely the loudest.. but gamay ra sa amo ang member sa student govt and hence why we lost our candidate(matt) for the presidency. We were not the polished, formal mainstream of past and succeeding generations of CS. Maski sa NEC where daghan mga taga XU. distinctive man ang batch nato.. maklaro nimo na mga law abiding and goody-goody kaayo in public ang mga previous and newer batches. They didnt have the rowdy nonconformant streak... anyway, past is past. no two people can have the exact reminiscence viewpoint of their experiences. Your experience is yours and yours alone. You might have shared it with someone, a best friend, a classmate. but there will always be differences in how you view the past. ----------------------------- Anyway, lingaw ni na thread... imbis seryoso to ang post ni marvin pascual... pero thanks ani na post, naka post napud si jumangs na medyo dugay dugay napud wala nag post dini :D ----- Original Message ---- From: Brent Lipke <[email protected]> To: Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 11:50:50 AM Subject: Re: [klug] [OT] BSCS @ XU Hi Ron Michael, I'd rather not. My views on XU CS are entirely different from the mainstream CS bunch that you guys belong to. :D On the diploma - we belong to a country where a considerable amount of qualifications including the diploma, is required to apply for a clerk *in any respectable office*. You can also drop out of school, run for President of the republic, and win anyway. <rant> I lost interest in attending my CS classes because I believed it was a waste of time & money, dealing with teachers who recently graduated college themselves. How dare they lecture the *real* experienced students when it comes to the subject that they are teaching? </rant> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Don Manganar<[email protected]> wrote: > Nice Ron. I thought I was reading Sunscreen. :) Great, sound advice. > Applicable to college, not just to CS. > Especially the parts about smoking pot, drinking, making out, cheating, and > pretending to look smart. Good times! > > Lagi ba? To be exact, it's been 7 years since we graduated college. Kunot na > kaayo tag mga agtang... tsk tsk. > > > On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Ron Michael Khu <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Sorry, I dont know of any relative of mine that is a freshmen at XUCS. >> >> But I think basically the advice/s given in the past generations are >> still feasible today. Both the traditional ones and the naughty >> ones(sleeping >> with a teacher, acquiring leakage, etc) :D >> >> So here goes.. basically mao ra pud ang ang gina ingon sa uban, but >> the phrasing and wording will be mine. >> >> (Ang mga medyo "fuzzy" na advice are the ones prefixed with "II" >> and they are the ones at the bottom.. This is actually the 2nd time >> Im composing a response; the first time was aroudn 1PM when my >> not so-SMART SMART-BRO caused an error and YM's faulty error handler >> for ajax messed up my email) >> >> >> 1. >> Dont underestimate math and other science subjects. >> >> Back when we were still in college (ex:mungkey, matt, brent, etc), >> Math and Physics were the hurdles. And students should watch out >> for the moody teachers, they are the hurdle-makers :D >> >> Some teachers are very biased against CS studes.. >> >> Those subjects are needed if the student is planning to focus on >> algorithms and the application of computer science in quantum physics, >> but rarely needed for a system's engineer with today's tools. >> >> And regardless of the plans for the future, those subjects >> are pre-requisites for graduation. >> >> >> >> 2. >> He/she should try to code or try out for one's self everything >> taught in a computer class the moment one arrives at >> home(or in a internet cafe or in a friend's home for that matter). >> Teachers would only teach the basics, and that's the maximum you can >> basically get. students should NOT expect they are to be spoon-fed >> or to be taught at all for that matter :D >> >> During that time there were no majors or specializations. CS studes >> were just going to end up as "Bachelors Major in CS", no sub specialty. >> But studes were already trying out to become web developers, >> db administrators, network programmers, 3D animators, jack-of-all-trades, >> etc. >> >> The student shouldn't worry. CS studes have a high passing rate in >> becoming a tech supprt or call center agent. Despite everything said >> against that path, it's a good starting point. Not everyone has >> the time, aptitude and heart to be a an IT freelancer or corporate sheep >> programmer. It's not the end if CS is not your calling. >> >> Basically, this is the "go the extra-mile" advice. >> >> And if the student's imagination is on-average, he can code in paper. >> Sa una ga code ra sa intermediate/yellow/bond paper si mungkey :D >> wala pa mi power na computer sa una na pwede makarun ug apps like >> the Java Dev Kit. Sa papel lang mag code and mag hulat sa pag open >> sa lab... >> >> >> >> 3. >> Enjoy college life. The student should make friends within and outside >> CS, and even beyod the bounds of XU. Build network of friends, friends >> will be extremely helpful regardless if the student is planning to be a >> freelancer or has plans on setting up his own business. >> >> >> >> 4. >> To be or not to be a.. graduate... >> >> Some people measure college achievement with a diploma, some with the >> number of friends, and some with other modes of measurements(including >> the naughty ones) :D >> >> Diploma isnt everything. We all know that, but a diploma is a good >> starting >> point especially when the majority of businesses are still >> diploma-oriented >> and not really workskill-based. I have one, but I have seen better >> programmers >> who didnt graduate. >> >> So the advice is: >> "while in school, study hard. Worry or focus later on the no-diploma >> approach >> when you have exhausted everything in the diploma-path." >> >> >> 5. >> While in school, work. >> >> Students should get a feeling what's it's like working as a professional >> or >> an active practicioner of his course. Dont wait for the >> on-the-job-training >> season to get a feel on things. >> >> CS studes can and should get projects from the internet. >> >> Students can basically start their career by using the free (free beer) >> stuff >> on the web.. free frameworks and applications and browser for clients in >> sites likes getafreelancer.com >> >> But they should remember to be responsible IT people, they shouldnt >> bid in system-critical projects where life or money is at stake IF they >> dont know enough about processes, threading, data integrity and security. >> >> >> There are enough govt and non-govt systems out there that are making >> problems >> for citizens. Lost sss information, loan balances, insurance payments, >> etc. >> >> They should also remember most foreigners remember and sort memories by >> country. >> So they shouldnt be cheating or giving non-working systems to unsuspecting >> foreigners, these foreign nationals might realize it and discriminate >> other >> would-be freelancers from our nation. >> >> >> ------------------------- >> Naa pa diay pakapin >> >> II.1 >> Unless if they are working students working in 4 different jobs, >> students shouldnt get an AF in easy subjects like >> Religiuos Studies. Read the bible, d*mmit! >> >> Dont get an AF. >> >> IF students cant cope up with drinking tanduay during the afternoon >> and still be able to come to a history class and pass whatever >> recitations and exams there are, then they have no right >> to be drinking. >> >> Yes, experimentation is common in college, labi na kanang >> wala pa katilaw sa high school. But SDH(sex, drugs and alcohol) >> are no reasons to get an AF.. financial problems may be, but SDH, >> NO. >> >> >> II.2 >> >> Memory recall is the cheapest thing. People have been called >> "bright" just because they have good memory. When in fact, almost >> anyone (except those with memory loss) have it. >> >> Acquire and maintain that IIlussion... >> >> Advise is >> "Speak-up and say something smart in class, teachers usually grade by >> memory-recall and sometimes it pays to be cute. And since not >> everyone can be cute, it pays to speak up and utter something >> smart(or something that may sound smart... or blurt something >> obvious, chances are people would still appreciate it and >> remember you for it)" >> >> >> >> III.3 >> Study the constitution and all the rizal-stuff. Read Article 14, >> section 3. It might help in future blogging plans and >> during college election campaign season. >> >> Plus, it would create the ilussion that you are an intellectual >> or a "concerned" citizen. >> >> >> II.4 >> >> It pays to be spiritual... pray to whoever or to whatever >> you consider to be the ONE, the MANY, the FORCE or WHATHAVEYOU. >> >> People are also moved by such stuff. >> >> >> II.5 >> >> And here are the extra advice >> >> If you are going to cheat, cheat smart. >> >> Dont get caught, copy from the right person. >> >> If you are going to download code from the internet, know >> enough about it so you can defend it. >> >> Group-cheating is bad. One squells, everyone goes down. >> Stick with a closed "unsuspicious" group, if you have to. >> >> Wear glasses, it makes you appear smart or unsuspicious >> for suspicious acts :D >> >> Beware of zealot teachers, they will think you have cheated >> anyway, even if you didnt. Damn idiots! >> >> Dont smoke marijuana out in the soccer field, get inside a closed >> heavily tinted car if you have to. >> >> If you are going to have an affair with someone in position, dont brag >> about it, >> people talk. >> >> If you are going to make out with your lover (2nd base and up), dont do >> it in the upper floors or >> in the library, XU will kick you out or at least humiliate you if you are >> caught doing >> something 3rd base. >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Marvin Pascual<[email protected]> wrote: >> > Hello all, >> > >> > If you are the parent, brother/sister, friend, mentor, etc. of a BSCS >> > freshman at XU, what are the advices that you can share to him/her? >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > --- >> > MARVIN T. 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