Hi!

*Bottom line*
Life is meant to be so easy. "Why handle when its hard? when you can let
go?". "Why think the things that were so tiring to do? why not think you do
that things coz your enjoying it to? People dying every minute as we speak
due to minor error. like in the program, sometimes the hardest one is
the simplest one, and doesn't run as you planed due to minor error,
 isn't not? @Richard Badlisan made me realize that.

Same as with this community. We are looking in the hard-way. We don't need
others to get this going and working, we simply need our cooperation and
dedication. In the long run, when we us people will retire, we just not
simply vanished. Our legacy, your legacy will live on. and will be passed
down to new comers and pay credits to us. We don't need to invite, recruit
others to join. Let our reputation fired-up their mind and attract them to
join. hassle free!

*Final Remark*
Everything and all will start within us, within you. So thats it! don't mind
others outside this community, mind ourselves and fellow country men
instead! [?][?]

P.S dont mind the boldie underlinie thinge, its just my style. like this

__________        .__
\______   \_____  |__| ______ ____   ____
 |       _/\__  \ |  |/  ___// __ \ /    \
 |    |   \ / __ \|  |\___ \\  ___/|   |  \
 |____|_  /(____  /__/____  >\___  >___|  /
        \/      \/        \/     \/     \/

Hehehe!



On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Marion Go <[email protected]> wrote:

> I second this . . There ARE still a number of eager minds existing here in
> the city. Kulang lang is initiative to tap those minds into working.
>
> Perhaps this group could show the next generation the significance of a
> group like this.
>
> 2010/7/8 Richard Badlisan <[email protected]>
>
> Years ago KLUG was very active that 1st thing na ginabuhat pagabot sa
>> office was to read the discussions. Naay about LINUX, cheats, tips, bashing,
>> and OTs. I can remember na diri man gali siguro ko nakahibalo about AJAX and
>> Jarlo's FTW chicks scandal.
>>
>> So unsa man gyud purpose aning KLUG? Ngano naa man ni na group?
>>
>> I believe na naa nay mga bago na generations karon na aggressive and
>> interested makatuon not just LINUX lang. I think mao sab na ang missing.
>> Para masurvive ang isa ka group, di ba we need to pass some things to the
>> next generations. I'm not saying na magpadaghan ta and I think it's not
>> really a bad idea.
>>
>> It's true na ang mga IT people gapanggawas na or tua na sa Manila and
>> Cebu. What about those IT pips nga naa pa gihapon diri sa CDO? I mean, maybe
>> some of us (even kadtong wala sa CDO), wants to have a simple dinner w/ IT
>> guys then probably makahisgut about forming a team (kumbaga pang-sideline
>> lang ba kaha). Naa pa man gihapon mga web developers, graphic designers,
>> programmers, SEO guys, and maski mga writers nag exists diri sa city. Kung
>> matipok na tanan, I think, makaencourage pud na nga somehow madevelop atong
>> thinking na pang out-of-da-box not just separate oneself from the pack.
>> Depende na pud na sa klase na tao hinuon.
>>
>> 2010/7/8 hard wyrd <[email protected]>
>>
>> And another thing, most of the IT pool that left CDO, do not necessarily
>>> have plans to comeback to start their own IT outfits here in CDO. That's one
>>> ingredient that's missing.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Ridvan Lakas ng Bayan S. Baluyos <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> well, as our wikipedia entry says.
>>>>
>>>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cagayan_de_Oro_City)
>>>>
>>>>> "ICT Goldmine of the Philippines" due to its number of ICT
>>>>> infrastructures and businesses mushrooming the 
>>>>> city<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City> providing
>>>>> job opportunities for ICT personnel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> quite true. ang gold naa sa cdeo. pero unsaon ta man gina export man
>>>> pagawas sa city gapanibat halos tanan IT people. ahahaha. so taman ra gyud
>>>> tas "goldmine" ani. lol.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu,Jul 8, 2010 at 10:05 AM, hard wyrd <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have some comments.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/7/8 Raisen Espinosa <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>> 5-10 yrs would be the nest of all kinds of skilled programmers in cdo
>>>>>> local. people will seek to bleed to find you guys. it will, if you will..
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Wont happen specially if the salary cap here in CDO remains low
>>>>> compared to CEBU or DAVAO. I mean, for those who are working in CDO now. 
>>>>> Try
>>>>> to evaluate your current salaries and compare that to the ones in Cebu 
>>>>> doing
>>>>> the same work as you do.
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing really is to have a group that will bring together all IT
>>>>> pros and practitioners here in CDO and organize. Not some business-centric
>>>>> organization that only serves the business aspect (like some "umbrella"
>>>>> group I know). And the organization must be able to stand and lobby for an
>>>>> increase in IT salaries here in CDO or else IT talents fly to Manila, 
>>>>> Cebu,
>>>>> or abroad. Before you know it, there's brain drain happening.
>>>>>
>>>>> Currently, CDO has become a training ground and talent pool, but it
>>>>> doesn't retain most of its IT talents because 1) salary is low 2) most IT
>>>>> outfits here do not think out of the box - they keep doing the same things
>>>>> that companies in other cities do.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> My idea is to try something new, post very enticing tool, program
>>>>>> cheat, etc as a open source limited to members only. this way, the 
>>>>>> community
>>>>>> will do more bonding and team work!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No problem on this one. However, unless every member will start
>>>>> actively contributing what they know, it won't happen. Openly contribute
>>>>> ideas, snippets of code, techniques, etc.. in order to grow as a team and 
>>>>> as
>>>>> a group.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> *Pros*: Challenge and learn, fun and learn etc..all will benifit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Cons*: EavesdropShoppers. Commercialized? Self-interest profit? it
>>>>>> happens all the time and its inevitable. the worst is terrorism.. so 
>>>>>> limit
>>>>>> the country that can access to lessen the risk. e.i north Korea. (*Mga
>>>>>> genius baya ta, lisud na maka imbento tag program nga maka patay. 
>>>>>> hahaha...
>>>>>> )
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **Closing*: This is where the brilliant mind starts. big things comes
>>>>>> in small packages. so be it! I will soon join the parade. ten-de-de-den~!
>>>>>> *Level-up!*  Party  nata! r0k 0n \w/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I'd like to add. A brilliant mind must be able to think out of
>>>>> the box and be able to separate oneself from the pack to discover his/her
>>>>> own weaknesses because that's the way to grow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best of luck everyone!
>>>>>
>>>>>
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