People here have been smoking a lot. 2010/7/8 Raisen Espinosa <[email protected]>
> Hi! > > *Bottom line* > Life is meant to be so easy. "Why handle when its hard? when you can let > go?". "Why think the things that were so tiring to do? why not think you do > that things coz your enjoying it to? People dying every minute as we speak > due to minor error. like in the program, sometimes the hardest one is > the simplest one, and doesn't run as you planed due to minor error, > isn't not? @Richard Badlisan made me realize that. > > Same as with this community. We are looking in the hard-way. We don't need > others to get this going and working, we simply need our cooperation and > dedication. In the long run, when we us people will retire, we just not > simply vanished. Our legacy, your legacy will live on. and will be passed > down to new comers and pay credits to us. We don't need to invite, recruit > others to join. Let our reputation fired-up their mind and attract them to > join. hassle free! > > *Final Remark* > Everything and all will start within us, within you. So thats it! don't > mind others outside this community, mind ourselves and fellow country men > instead! [?][?] > > P.S dont mind the boldie underlinie thinge, its just my style. like this > > __________ .__ > \______ \_____ |__| ______ ____ ____ > | _/\__ \ | |/ ___// __ \ / \ > | | \ / __ \| |\___ \\ ___/| | \ > |____|_ /(____ /__/____ >\___ >___| / > \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ > > Hehehe! > > > > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Marion Go <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I second this . . There ARE still a number of eager minds existing here in >> the city. Kulang lang is initiative to tap those minds into working. >> >> Perhaps this group could show the next generation the significance of a >> group like this. >> >> 2010/7/8 Richard Badlisan <[email protected]> >> >> Years ago KLUG was very active that 1st thing na ginabuhat pagabot sa >>> office was to read the discussions. Naay about LINUX, cheats, tips, bashing, >>> and OTs. I can remember na diri man gali siguro ko nakahibalo about AJAX and >>> Jarlo's FTW chicks scandal. >>> >>> So unsa man gyud purpose aning KLUG? Ngano naa man ni na group? >>> >>> I believe na naa nay mga bago na generations karon na aggressive and >>> interested makatuon not just LINUX lang. I think mao sab na ang missing. >>> Para masurvive ang isa ka group, di ba we need to pass some things to the >>> next generations. I'm not saying na magpadaghan ta and I think it's not >>> really a bad idea. >>> >>> It's true na ang mga IT people gapanggawas na or tua na sa Manila and >>> Cebu. What about those IT pips nga naa pa gihapon diri sa CDO? I mean, maybe >>> some of us (even kadtong wala sa CDO), wants to have a simple dinner w/ IT >>> guys then probably makahisgut about forming a team (kumbaga pang-sideline >>> lang ba kaha). Naa pa man gihapon mga web developers, graphic designers, >>> programmers, SEO guys, and maski mga writers nag exists diri sa city. Kung >>> matipok na tanan, I think, makaencourage pud na nga somehow madevelop atong >>> thinking na pang out-of-da-box not just separate oneself from the pack. >>> Depende na pud na sa klase na tao hinuon. >>> >>> 2010/7/8 hard wyrd <[email protected]> >>> >>> And another thing, most of the IT pool that left CDO, do not necessarily >>>> have plans to comeback to start their own IT outfits here in CDO. That's >>>> one >>>> ingredient that's missing. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Ridvan Lakas ng Bayan S. Baluyos < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> well, as our wikipedia entry says. >>>>> >>>>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cagayan_de_Oro_City) >>>>> >>>>>> "ICT Goldmine of the Philippines" due to its number of ICT >>>>>> infrastructures and businesses mushrooming the >>>>>> city<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City> providing >>>>>> job opportunities for ICT personnel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> quite true. ang gold naa sa cdeo. pero unsaon ta man gina export man >>>>> pagawas sa city gapanibat halos tanan IT people. ahahaha. so taman ra gyud >>>>> tas "goldmine" ani. lol. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu,Jul 8, 2010 at 10:05 AM, hard wyrd <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have some comments. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2010/7/8 Raisen Espinosa <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>> 5-10 yrs would be the nest of all kinds of skilled programmers in cdo >>>>>>> local. people will seek to bleed to find you guys. it will, if you >>>>>>> will.. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Wont happen specially if the salary cap here in CDO remains low >>>>>> compared to CEBU or DAVAO. I mean, for those who are working in CDO now. >>>>>> Try >>>>>> to evaluate your current salaries and compare that to the ones in Cebu >>>>>> doing >>>>>> the same work as you do. >>>>>> >>>>>> One thing really is to have a group that will bring together all IT >>>>>> pros and practitioners here in CDO and organize. Not some >>>>>> business-centric >>>>>> organization that only serves the business aspect (like some "umbrella" >>>>>> group I know). And the organization must be able to stand and lobby for >>>>>> an >>>>>> increase in IT salaries here in CDO or else IT talents fly to Manila, >>>>>> Cebu, >>>>>> or abroad. Before you know it, there's brain drain happening. >>>>>> >>>>>> Currently, CDO has become a training ground and talent pool, but it >>>>>> doesn't retain most of its IT talents because 1) salary is low 2) most IT >>>>>> outfits here do not think out of the box - they keep doing the same >>>>>> things >>>>>> that companies in other cities do. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> My idea is to try something new, post very enticing tool, program >>>>>>> cheat, etc as a open source limited to members only. this way, the >>>>>>> community >>>>>>> will do more bonding and team work! >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> No problem on this one. However, unless every member will start >>>>>> actively contributing what they know, it won't happen. Openly contribute >>>>>> ideas, snippets of code, techniques, etc.. in order to grow as a team >>>>>> and as >>>>>> a group. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> *Pros*: Challenge and learn, fun and learn etc..all will benifit. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Cons*: EavesdropShoppers. Commercialized? Self-interest profit? it >>>>>>> happens all the time and its inevitable. the worst is terrorism.. so >>>>>>> limit >>>>>>> the country that can access to lessen the risk. e.i north Korea. (*Mga >>>>>>> genius baya ta, lisud na maka imbento tag program nga maka patay. >>>>>>> hahaha... >>>>>>> ) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> **Closing*: This is where the brilliant mind starts. big things >>>>>>> comes in small packages. so be it! I will soon join the parade. >>>>>>> ten-de-de-den~! *Level-up!* Party nata! r0k 0n \w/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Also, I'd like to add. A brilliant mind must be able to think out of >>>>>> the box and be able to separate oneself from the pack to discover his/her >>>>>> own weaknesses because that's the way to grow. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best of luck everyone! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> "Penguin, penguin, and more penguin !" >>>>>> >>>>>> www.madforubuntu.com >>>>>> baudizm.blogsome.com >>>>>> >>>>>> _________________________________________________ >>>>>> Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List >>>>>> [email protected] ( >>>>>> http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/klug) >>>>>> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> バルヨス リドアン >>>>> BALUYOS, Ridvan Lakas ng Bayan S. >>>>> http://www.google.com/profiles/ridvan.baluyos >>>>> >>>>> _________________________________________________ >>>>> Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List >>>>> [email protected] ( >>>>> http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/klug) >>>>> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> "Penguin, penguin, and more penguin !" >>>> >>>> www.madforubuntu.com >>>> baudizm.blogsome.com >>>> >>>> _________________________________________________ >>>> Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List >>>> [email protected] ( >>>> http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/klug) >>>> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://portfolio.pinoyexp.com/ >>> >>> _________________________________________________ >>> Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List >>> [email protected] (http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/klug >>> ) >>> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph >>> >> >> >> _________________________________________________ >> Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List >> [email protected] (http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/klug) >> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph >> > > > > -- > "Ask, believe and received" > "Wisdom, knowledge and understanding" > > > _________________________________________________ > Kagay-Anon Linux Users' Group (KLUG) Mailing List > [email protected] (http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/klug) > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > -- Robert Brent P. 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