begin  quoting Tracy R Reed as of Wed, Mar 23, 2005 at 05:15:00PM +0700:
[snip]
> Does it even have a journalled fs? I won't go without one anymore. It
> doesn't have reiser either which is my favorite.

Can't say this is a big motivator for me.

>                                                  It's missing a lot of
> commercial support if you ever want to run a commercial application on
> it.

For that I have OS X.

>     No SE Linux or other style mandatory access control is there? I

BSD seems to have fewer security problems. As pointed elsewhere in
this thread, there's less need.

> think it has SMP now although probably not as mature as Linux's SMP
> since it has been around so much longer.

By this argument, I should jump on the OpenSolaris bandwagon. Linux SMP
support has never been all that great.

>                                          We gave up BSD in the very
> early days of MP3 in large part due to lack of SMP support. Less driver
> support also.

I suspect that's partly due to the GPL "you use it we own it" nature.

>               More people are familiar with Linux if you are looking for
> employees.

That's an argument for MSWindows.  So I don't accept that line of
reasoning.  Employees can surely _learn_.

>            BSD is cool and all but I don't see a whole lot of reasons to
> run it other than for religious or nostalgic reasons.

To get out from under the yoke of the FSF?

>                                                       I am glad it
> exists though just in case something really bad happens to Linux
> although I can't really conceive of what that would be that would not
> affect BSD also.

Ten million clueless users insisting on eye-candy over stability, and
wanting to log in as root...

Really, having an alternative -- a healthy alternative -- is good in
and of itself.

> > *BSD does have that advantage; the kernel and userland "are BSD."  Not 
> > kernel this and libc that and coreutils something else.
> 
> What other OS does glibc and coreutils run on if not Linux?

Good question...

                *-*-gnu                 GNU Hurd
                i[3456]86-*-linux-gnu   Linux-2.x on Intel
                m68k-*-linux-gnu        Linux-2.x on Motorola 680x0
                alpha*-*-linux-gnu      Linux-2.x on DEC Alpha
                powerpc-*-linux-gnu     Linux and MkLinux on PowerPC systems
                powerpc64-*-linux-gnu   Linux-2.4.19+ on 64-bit PowerPC systems
                sparc-*-linux-gnu       Linux-2.x on SPARC
                sparc64-*-linux-gnu     Linux-2.x on UltraSPARC 64-bit
                arm-*-none              ARM standalone systems
                arm-*-linux             Linux-2.x on ARM
                arm-*-linuxaout         Linux-2.x on ARM using a.out binaries
                mips*-*-linux-gnu       Linux-2.x on MIPS
                ia64-*-linux-gnu        Linux-2.x on ia64
                s390-*-linux-gnu        Linux-2.x on IBM S/390
                s390x-*-linux-gnu       Linux-2.4+ on IBM S/390 64-bit
                sh-*-linux-gnu          Linux-2.x on Super Hitachi
                cris-*-linux-gnu        Linux-2.4+ on CRIS
                x86-64-*-linux-gnu      Linux-2.4+ on x86-64


-Stewart "Wonder if it's still possible to run Linux w/o glibc" Stremler
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