On Tuesday 07 June 2005 12:43 am, Andrew Lentvorski wrote:
> boblq wrote:
> > Strange how comparatively happy (and free) they are in their
> > ignorance of your awesome government coddled superiority.
>
> <snide>By the same token, they will have no effect upon mankind other
> than to breed and waste resources.</snide>

Easy Andrew. I can assure you that the corn and rice farmers in my
family are doing a lot less damage to the global ecosystem than 
the average American. They are just much more focused on their
relationships with each other than they are on how many objects
they own. They have a healthier outlook on life. 

> My last project helps fight disease the world over.  Friends of mine
> work on projects which help us understand the universe, take our first
> steps off of this planet, produce music and art which can be appreciated
>   even by the ignorant, and help educate people across the globe.

Good for you and good for them. I have a Ph.D. in physics but have
learned more about life from my relatives in the Phillippines then I did
building a spacecraft instrument that went to the moon. But you have 
to assume an open mind to learn from people. If you go in with the 
assumption that they are your inferiors then you won't learn a thing.

> <snide>Your relatives may be happy, but my friends have more value than
> another mouth sucking on the global teat.</snide>

Now it is my turn to be snide. I am glad you have such valuable friends. 
It must be wonderful to be associated with such brilliant and creative
people who look down their long intellectual noses at those who merely
"suck off the global teat." 

> <earnest>
> And, BTW, I don't think of myself as unhappy.  I *like* living in this
> time in this place.  50 years ago I would be working in a steel mill or
> coal mine and then drinking myself into an alcoholic haze in order to
> face the fact that I might be killed at my job tomorrow.

Not in the Philippines, chuckle. It is not my fault that your relatives 
moved to Pittsburgh (or wherever) to work in the Satanic mills. 
>
> Alternatively, I would be working on a farm for 12+ hours a day and be
> so tired that I would barely be able to stay awake to talk to my wife
> and children in the evening.  And my wife might not be alive because she
> died in childbirth with our third child because we were too far from a
> doctor or hospital when something went wrong.
> </earnest>

Having children who don't die does not seem to be a problem for 
my family. Nor are the wives dieing. You suggest they are a problem 
for the globe while we use ten times the resources for one of our 
privileged Americans. I suggest you look around at who is really sucking 
the global teat dry. It is not poor people. 

> I'm glad your poor relatives are happy in their ignorance.  However,
> I'll pass on their lifestyle, thank you very much.  Don't presume to
> speak for my happiness or lack thereof.

I am glad you are happy to, but I can tell you when it comes to averages 
Americans don't do so well on the happiness outcomes. 

Besides Andrew let's look at some personal facts I do know about you.
You are incredibly intelligent and gifted. This is obvious and a matter 
not of your doing but of good genetic luck. You are well educated. You
say you have a job you like and I believe it pays you well. If anyone 
should be happy even in a bad situation it is someone like you. 

But I don't propose to speak for you nor the arrogant and elitist pigs 
you value as your friends. 

boblq




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