Quoting Gabriel Sechan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
You aren't complaining because the unionization effort won those things for you 90 years ago. The reason you have safe working conditions (and laws
Yes yes.. we all know that unions, in the past, helped to get a lot of the laws that help us today passed. This is why, when discussing unions of today, we specifically talk about what they've become today... not all unions throughout history.
If unions were to disappear tomorrow, you'd keep them for a while. Then the corporations would slowly remove them, each time removing a small enough
People love to say that too, but I don't see it happening either. Poeple aren't going to just sit back and let the country turn back into the days when people worked in horrid conditions for 16+ hours a day, 7 days a week for pennies on the dollar. If we do, we deserve it. And it won't necessarily take unions to stop it from happening, we all have a voice and can vote ourselves. We don't need union thugs to get our message across.
chunk that people don't immediately unionize. But so long as unions exist they can't. Sometimes the threat of force is as potent as actually usign it. Here, the threat that you can unionize and hurt the company forces them to treat you decently.
I've yet to hear any talk at this company of unionizing in order to force the company into treating us well. We're a company founded, and mostly run by engineers who understand that treating us well results in higher returns to them. In fact, we tend to do questionaires pretty regularly where they ask us for our input on all kinds of things from types of compensations we prefer to how we feel our peers and departments are doing. I know this company isn't the norm.. but good companies do exist. -- Mike Marion-Unix SysAdmin/Staff Engineer-http://www.miguelito.org Marge: "Homer, sitting that close to the TV can't be good for you." Homer: "Talking while the TV's on can't be good for you!" ==> Simpsons -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list
