begin quoting Mike Marion as of Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 07:27:41PM -0700: [snip] > aren't going to just sit back and let the country turn back into the days > when people worked in horrid conditions for 16+ hours a day, 7 days a week > for pennies on the dollar.
They aren't? Isn't EA a counter-example of that? > If we do, we deserve it. Erm. If we give up unions (which were the only way to put a stop to the horrid conditions that actually _worked_) on the premise that some other untried mechanism would work just as well, then if it doesn't, we *deserve* to suffer the consequences of failure? Yeah, because we let go of something that worked (albeit poorly) in favor of something untried. > And it won't necessarily take unions to stop it from happening, we all > have a voice and can vote ourselves. We don't need union thugs to get > our message across. Why would our message get across? That seems like an unwarranted assumption. Why should anyone listen to that message? What are we going to do? Form a union and strike? > I've yet to hear any talk at this company of unionizing in order to force > the company into treating us well. We're a company founded, and > mostly run by engineers who understand that treating us well results Engineers are management, surely.... > in higher returns to them. In fact, we tend to do questionaires > pretty regularly where they ask us for our input on all kinds of > things from types of compensations we prefer to how we feel our peers > and departments are doing. So you hear no talk of unionizing and everyone's happy. Where's the problem? You're not dealing with a union. Why do you object to unions so much? > I know this company isn't the norm.. but > good companies do exist. ...and can manage to exist without unions. No problem. Why should everyone else do without unions, when their employers aren't so enlightened? -Stewart "Union thugs are mythical beasts." Stremler
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