On 10/5/05, Lan Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 02:45:44PM -0700, m ike wrote:
> >
> > I've never heard the basis for anti-copyright.  This is an honest
> > question: what is the harm?  That is, outside of the
> > socialism/individualism debate, what is the harm?
>
> Copyright, and its sister patent, were well discussed in the Federalist
> and Anti-Federalist Papers.

thank you!

> The subject was in the constitution in the
> first place because of the abuses of copyright and patent by the English
> king. The Kings of the day would assign copyrights and patents to their
> cronies as a method of rewarding them with a stream of unearned income.
> These extended to such things as copyrights on playing cards (to a noble
> who had not invented or designed playing cards) and a patent on salt.

Politics aside, the copyright and patent themselves seem fair to me. 
Salt is a little extreme, but not anymore so than realestate.

> Some like Jefferson (you gonna call Jefferson a socialist?) thought
> there simply should be no copyrights and patents because it would
> inevitably be abused.

I guess I'm just of the opinion that if I create something (write a
novel) or invent something (design a new screwdriver) that I own it.

> It is an undeniable fact that every time Mickey Mouse's copyright is
> about to run out, the big players (MPAA, RIAA, Disney, Turner) kick up
> the campaign contributions, and copyright gets pushed out another twenty
> years.

I didn't know this, thanks.  It seems ridiculous to me that Disney has
to do such things in order to maintain their copyright. I cannot image
that anyone's life or happiness depends on their being able use for
free a Disney character for profit (or non-profit).


Best,
Mike


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